I’m fairly sure if they took porn off the internet, there’d only be one website left, and it’d be called “Bring Back the Porn!”
-Dr. Cox
All these states are Small Government Freedom states!
Also the “Think about the children!” states but force birth on minors, don’t give healthcare or food to kids, and vote in pedophiles.
Cons just care about the kid until they are born. Not one second longer than that.
Unless they are marrying them
They don’t marry them, they just diddle them underage on exotic island compounds.
VPN business must be so hot right now
Unfortunately they’ll go after that next.
I’m legitimately surprised at the number of pro-government control comments in this thread, though. We are truly doomed because of the people in the back.
I find it funny that the same people who are against government regulations and giving more power to the state are the ones voting for this. They also seem to be so poorly informed that they think it’ll stop anyone from watching this content lol.
Yeah, well that’s the thing: they like the idea of being against government regulations, but if it is presented to them as a moral issue, they eat it up.
Case in point: a comment in this thread loosely trying to pose PH’s response as being against states’ rights – in this case, due to the states tacitly regulating morality. I’m sure if the issue was e.g. raising state taxes, all of a sudden states’ rights wouldn’t matter.
The right wing learned a while ago that if you can pose anything as morality, there is a whole class of people that will simply lick the boot.
There’s gotta be a solution that leverages their unwavering support for the 4th amendment here. I mean a penis is basically a naturally occurring gun, already. You could almost certainly get a congressman to endorse porn in schools this way.
They… will… use the penis to quarter military forces?
There’s also websites hosted in countries that don’t care about US law. We can access those even without a VPN, for now…
In addition, the porn business is hot right now! So many people just got cut off and are now paying for content.
As a Virginian, I hadn’t subscribed to a VPN until our legislators decided to pull this shit.
Over the past year, Pornhub had to make the difficult decision to block access to users in numerous American states due to newly passed Age Verification laws (Texas, Utah, Arkansas, Virginia, Montana, North Carolina, Mississippi). In July 2024, we will unfortunately be blocking several more states who are introducing similar laws. (Indiana, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky and Nebraska.)
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Pornhub should buy a VPN service. Just cut out the middle man.
The middle-man provides plausible deniability in this case. PornHub can genuinely say they don’t see connections from age-verification states atm. That stops being true if they host the VPN, making them aware of actual client locations.
Wonder if a parent company could own them both.
That would be a liability, and they would go after the parent company crying foul play.
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“Land of the Free” my ass
TBH I kinda agree with the states here… I started watching porn waaayyyy too early and it’s fucking me up… without a doubt… I shouldn’t have seen all the things I looked for and now I gotta put up with it.
But I also agree with PornHubs decision. There is no way to verify age without exposing your identity. There isn’t even a way to trust a 3rd party to verify someone’s age.
There really isn’t a middle ground, the only way to protect kinds (like little me) is to block the porn. But websites go on and offline every few minutes, VPNs and Tor are free and hard to blacklist.
How do we censor internet porn?? ¯\(°_o)/¯
How about less “control everyone else” and more “control your own damn kids”.
My daughter didn’t get unsupervised access until she proved responsible enough to trust. I want to say around 13.
Just because “I grew up with it unsupervised and it ruined me” doesn’t immediately equal “everyone will have this experience”. Sorry your parents didn’t understand what you were doing. Sorry you saw stuff that bothered you. Don’t punish everyone else for it.
I’m far from a helicopter parent… Instead, my kid has come to me for help in resolving uncomfortable or problematic interactions. We’ve always been clear and honest about why we’ve asked her to avoid certain things. Even when it made us uncomfortable. Especially then.
She’s 20 now. Most cheerful kid I’ve ever met. No idea how that happened directly, but I know I can trust her.
I think the part these points miss is that a lot of kids don’t have good or involved parents, and they shouldn’t have to suffer disproportionately because of it
You are still removing others rights over a hypothetical. It doesn’t miss this, it directly focuses on the point of blame. Punish the parents for exposing their kids. Irresponsibility is not excuse for harm… If a parent leaves hardcore porn laying around for a child to find and harm occurs, don’t punish the uninvolved adult up the street.
Another form of media doesn’t magically absolve parents from parental responsibility. Stop trying to play the “poor adults have no control over their kids!” Card.
The “but think of the children!!!” trope is tired and over abused to remove rights and privacy. Move along.
the only way to protect kinds (like little me) is to block the porn.
This is false.
Parents have a number of options available to them that do no need to involve the state.
Imagine parents actually parenting instead of blaming everyone else but themselves?
What are those options?
Domain and IP block lists?
Healthy parenting would go a long way. See some of the other comments in this thread.
You can also have settings on your local network. If you’re afraid of your kid casually finding something inappropriate, you can set that up stuff locally without involving the government. A determined kid will still find a way to get stuff, so this is more a safeguard against accidental discovery.
Investing in quality education would also benefit everyone.
Parental controls and an /etc/hosts file for good measure
Parental controls exists, and it’s on the parent to use them. Easier now than ever before.
Yeah, something like Adguard family DNS protection or any other family protection DNS service exist which works at the device level or even the network level and is simple to setup on smartphones and latops/computers or even the router.
YouTube won’t even load comments saying restricted mode if I browse through Adguard family protection DNS server.
I didn’t catch the name of that great parental control service, could you say it again?
There is no “middle ground”. The solution is to talk about sex. Early and when it’s prompted aka when children start asking questions.
Stop treating sex as if it’s something holy, special, taboo, and assigning a bunch of value to it. Trying to shield children from it is precisely the wrong thing to do. It’s exactly the same with this fairy tale bullshit about relationships, marriage, and kids. Media makes it seem like the epitome of existence, that there’s nothing greater than finding that one special person, and that there’s only one special person forever and ever, and that it has to be of the opposite sex in order to procreate.
The more you hype something up, and that includes trying to hide it, the more it tantalizes people.
Again, answer questions honestly and truthfully that pertain to sex, attraction, relationships, and so on. Teach how to tell the real from the fake. Normalize knowledge and understanding of intimacy. It’ll make for much healthier children and even healthier adults.
Education is the silver bullet.
The issue here, I’m sorry to say, is that your parents dropped the ball. They were the ones responsible for your health and the safety of your environment.
You’ll never be able to properly block it
You can just go to Reddit instead. Same thing.
There isn’t even a way to trust a 3rd party to verify someone’s age.
It depends what you mean by this. If you mean in terms of a way to trust that the third party is doing its job correctly, that’s as simple as using the government itself to do the verification after seeing some proof of age.
If you mean in terms of privacy, you can’t protect the privacy of the fact that someone got verified, but you can protect the privacy of their browsing after the fact. It’s a neat cryptographic trick called blind signatures. The end result is a token that the user holds which they can hand over to websites that tells the website “a trusted third party has verified I’m over 18” but would not have to reveal any more information about them than that. But even if the government was that trusted third party, and they asked the websites to hand over all their logs, the government would still not be able to trace your views back to you, because the token you hold is one they never saw.
This is, in my opinion, still a bad idea. I am in no way advocating for this policy. There’s still the mere fact that you have to go up to someone and basically register yourself as a porn viewer, which is fucked up. Maybe if these tokens were used in other ways, like instead of showing your licence at bars, it could be less bad (though there are other practical reasons I don’t think that would work) because the tokens could be less directly associated with porn. But it’s still an unnecessary layer of bureaucracy. Not to mention the cost that adding all this would put on the government—or, if they charge for these tokens, the people using it—for what actual gain, exactly?
I’m merely pointing out that from a purely technical perspective, this is quite different from when governments request back doors into chat encryption. This actually can be done. It just shouldn’t, for non-technical reasons.
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Only the biggest websites are even acknowledging this, it’ll get torn down as soon as it actually goes into effect, can’t keep the Mormons away from their porn.
Easiest solution IMO if you’re already using CloudFlare, even the free version: you can filter out certain countries. Otherwise, there’s probably other alternatives, even open source ones. Good terms to search for with your cloud provider or self hosted software may be middlewares, firewalls, serverless, edge functions, etc.
Pornhub is only pulling out to punish the states for trying to stand up to them. In classic American monopoly fashion they go on the attack as soon as any legislation targets them.
Pornhub claims the reason is because they dont to collect government ID but Pornhub collects user data and understands who their customers are. Adding government ID to their data would hardly be anymore of a privacy invasion and it’s not like they are forced to store it.
I’ve never, ever seen anyone lick boots harder than this.
OK
Adding government ID to their data would hardly be anymore of a privacy invasion
Are you listening to yourself?
Lets put name to the IP address. Yup, that is the same as just the IP address that can be shared by multiple devices.
attack
They just pull out of those states. How is that an attack?
Law maker enacts legislation towards a company. The company is able to comply but instead the company pulls the service or severelyndegrades it. Then when users are pissed off the company will point to the law maker and say “they forced us to do this”. The law maker then suffers the blacklash of companies service withdrawal.
Apple tried this with the EU usb c but eventually backed down. John deer tried this with right to repair. There are many cases where companies use these tactics to try and bully law makers away from regulating them and I think i know it’s legal and their right to do so but I find it gross.
I don’t think the law makers should be solving the “problem” this way but I also don’t think pornhub should deny service from an entire state because they want an an ID check implemented.
Apple tried this with the EU usb c but eventually backed down
Umm, what? Apple was always going to move to USB-C. The EU regulations at most hastened that by a couple of years. Their tablets and even laptop computers were using USB-C before the EU even enacted that legislation. It was only a matter of time.
But back on the subject at hand, this is nothing like that sort of bullying. This is a company being asked to build more infrastructure at their own expense, and then use that infrastructure to place its own users at risk. They’ve made a simple calculation that it’s better for their bottom line and their reputation to choose not to comply, and instead pull out of a few small markets.
Pornhub as a monopoly??? Wow lmao. Someone never got creative with the search bar and it’s very apparent.
Lol wuht
heh, pulling out
Good riddance. Fucking weirdos, every other site figured it out.
regulate my internet traffic harder daddy
Your comment is blocked in 5 states now.
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which sites ask for IDs?
“Every other site”, obvs, it’s right there in the comment. You mean you’re not uploading your driver’s license to watch someone get railed?!
/s
Name one pls
nhentai did
I just went to nhentai .to and nhentai .net from TX and was immediately shown naked anime children, so no, I don’t think that site has figured anything out unless I got the domain wrong.
You mean to tell me nhentai is your model porn site?
Yes actually. Whats wrong with nhentai?
A lot of the stuff you get on nhentai is sometimes questionable. Like 12y/o looking sister questionable.
And what exactly did nhentai figure out that Pornhub didn’t?How to serve texas and other regions
You mean just not caring or something else?
Thing is, you can’t just do that as a registered corporation, even if you’re from another country.
“Social media” is next and many people here already support it.
To be honest… A lot of social media should actually be banned.
Yep, people sadly are bad at extrapolating how restrictions on something they dislike can be cross-applied to limit things they don’t dislike, by others.
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