• Yoga@lemmy.ca
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    I mean, what do you expect them to say?

    “Time to install Linux, here’s how you chose a kernel:”

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    I took the last message I got from them as an invitation to ditch Windows for Linux. Now I wish I did that earlier!

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    “Trade it”

    TO FUCKING WHOM? The whole point is that you made it useless.

    (Unless this is Microsoft providing some free advertising for Linux)

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      Probably going to be a ton of cheap used computers on the market in the near future for installing Linux on

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        Every now and then a little devil on my shoulder says “you should set up a cluster computer that serves a secondary function as a smart space heater” and it’s gonna be really hard to ignore if the deals are good enough.

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        Oh good. My PC is actually 11 years old. The hard drive died a few months ago. So I replaced the 3.5inch sata 7200rpm drive with an enclosure that holds 2 2.5inch drives. I’m using solid state for the first time. I was able to clone my Windows 7 drive to a solid state drive. It works even better than the original drive.

        But! That enclosure makes it so that I can just turn off the PC, eject the drive, insert a different drive, and now I’m on an entirely different OS. It’s my first time using linux…it still sucks, but it’s useable. Last time I tried linux was right before I bought this PC 11 years ago. I tried using linux on a PC that previously was running Windows XP. I couldn’t even get it to boot. Now things generally work, but it has BEEN a constant struggle, and a constant learning experience.

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          One thing I would keep in mind is that the Win64 API does change from release-to-release and that my guess is that if very few people using a software package are still using a version of Windows, application software developers may stop intentionally avoiding newer API calls and features, and will just have their new release require a newer version of Windows.

          That may be okay for some use cases, like if you just want to keep an existing system working with existing software. But I think that it’s worth keeping in mind that you may increasingly not be able to use:

          • New software packages.

          • Newer releases of existing packages.

          • Software packages that make use of cloud-based services that drop support.

          • New hardware that requires software support.

          They’re probably going to take into account the percentage of people using the thing in setting their compatibility targets for developers and their testing.

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    Windows 11 is the most secure Windows ever built, with comprehensive end-to-end security

    Does “end-to-end security” actually mean anything in this context, or is it just intended to evoke “end-to-end encryption”?

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    Windows 11 is the most secure Windows ever built

    They’ve been saying that about every single one since that notoriously insecure one. ME, I think?

    Also, I’m pretty sure that Tiny11 or the like is more secure if you consider data privacy important, since a lot of the privacy issues of Windows 11 are coming from the unnecessary parts of Windows itself…

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      I mean, one would hope that whenever there is a new version it’s more secure than the last one. Not that it’s true, but that’s how it should be, so nothing weird about the claim.

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        Games aren’t much of an issue anymore, it’s the other software that keeps me from switching

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        I’ve been gaming on Linux for close to two years now. I believe there have been two games that actually caused some issues in getting them to run. But for the most part Proton does everything out of the box. And especially older games work way better than on Windows. There are no problems with compatibility mode or deprecated WinAPI-Calls. It just works.

        The only thing I would advise is to install Steam and all your other launchers via Lutris. That will save you some hassle.

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        When’s the last time you tried?

        I’ve been gaming on bazzite and haven’t found a game that doesn’t work. Haven’t had to touch a command line or anything, everything has been stable out of the box

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          How about Valorant? Its basically the only game (+ rainbow six siege / PUBG potentially, idk if these work) blocking me from switching. I know all my other games will work without issue cause they run on my steam deck as well.

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        Real, Valorant is the only game really keeping me from Linux at this point. Steam with proton has really improved linux gaming

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        If yoy have a fairly recent gpu, windows games run fine on linux. The exception is games with agressive anti-cheat.

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        Dude…c’mon now. Check my history. I am NOT a linux defender. I am more along the lines of a linux user mocker. I find the OS to be confusing, but I find the userbase to just be SO…SO mockable. Just making fun of linux brings them out in droves. And it’s so funny to point out how the whole OS is clearly terminal mandated to enjoy the OS. Just say something like that, and you’ll twist somebodies knickers.

        That being said, of all the things that are legitimately awful about linux, you chose the GAME SUPPORT??? My god. Steam is THE storefront on PC. They have a vested interest in helping linux’s development, as long as that development goes towards making games work. The steamdeck is literally their financial incentive to make certain that your claim isn’t close to being true.

        And sure, you could say you disagree with Steam’s practice of LICENSING you a game. Not selling. There is a difference. I get it. That is something that is in itself a problem, but that also doesn’t relate to your issue. Because even if you stayed on Windows, you’d still have to buy from Steam. They’re just as dominant on Windows, as they are on linux.

        So, you COULD buy from GOG. The issue is, they specialize in retro games. So, their library may have massive gigantic gaps in titles. But again, this would also be true on Windows.

        So…yeah, I don’t know how you would defend linux game support being lackluster.

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          I don’t like how you worded this because you overlook the fact that games with a kernal anti-cheat don’t work on Linux. This is the only reason I haven’t switched over yet. The only arguments people make is “just play other games” which is not helpful at all and suggesting dual booting which I’d have to do what? Daily? Maybe twice a day? Whats the use of having Linux then?

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          Unless you use something other than iOS or Android, you’re also a *nix user. Have fun lol

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        Check out distros like Pop!_OS or Nobara. Linux gaming has come a long way recently due to Valve going all in on linux for the Steam Deck. Frankly even just the standard mainline distros aren’t terrible for gaming these days tbh.

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    They act like the computer’s just going to stop working or something… People are going to use win 10 out of support for years.

    E: specifically note, please, that i said “act”. I’m aware they state it will keep working in the little FAQ.

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    Meh, I just saw this banner on my Win 10 desktop, which is not compatible with Win 11, I’ll just put Linux on it.

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    Infuriating for sure. People can’t afford groceries or rent and Microsoft chooses to ride in with a, by the way, your computer needs to go, just buy a new one, k?