Here’s $0 kid, buy yourself a better operating system. All the others come with HEIC support.
Get work to implement it.
I can use HEIC on Arch (btw) just fine. As I recall there’s some bullshit you need to download on the Microsoft store to get it to work. It’s a pain in the ass.
Becoming a default to have it installed in Windows. On a personal machine, it’s easy to fix. In our work environment, we just made sure it’s on the image by default. You can also circumvent a windows store block by installing appx stuff in Powershell.
As much as I love to hate on apple, any of this format shit is 100% Windows bullshit. It’s not just pictures, with shit like webm, or some random video codecs it’ll ask you to FUCKING BUY! But even shit like Windows only supporting some like 3 file formats from the god knows how many out there. Ever since I switched to Linux (heck, even fucking MacOS would do better) all this stopped being an issue. Fuck windows for literally only supporting their special selection of formats. There’s a good reason why the first step of many people installing windows is also Installing VLC or MUCH superior image viewers. Because Microsoft chooses to not support most things out there!
Imageglass, be chill
Exactly. Android’s default image format is HEIC as well. Jpeg is outdated and needs to die already.
Classic jpeg still has value and there’s improved revisions.
I had my phone taking photos in HEIC for a couple months. i ended up switching back to .JPG because both signal and whatsapp stuggled with it
All my default photos are jpg. What’s wrong with that?
For most usage, probably nothing. Let’s be honest you arent looking at those pics again most of the time. Most of the ones you do, you’re looking at on your phone which has a tiny screen. Ask yourself how many times you’ve wanted to zoom in 10x on a jpeg on your computer and there’s your answer as to whether there’s anything wrong with it.
It’s a 32 year old format that makes pictures worse in order to save space. A lot changes in the tech works in 30 years. While there may be nothing inherently wrong with it, there’s far better image encoding algorithms these days that can store images in less space without reducing the quality as much.
JPG is not bad, but it uses more storage space for the same quality compared to HEIC/HEIF
How many distros support h264/265 out of the box? They probably don’t support most HEIC images either since they’re HEVC on the inside
Almost all of them? They may prompt you to install additional codecs but thats it. Most software displaying images support thoose image formats. Man we have vlc to display any format
That’s exactly the same case as Windows. The built-in photo/video players don’t support them out of the box, but do if you install the free codec from the store, or you can install any 3rd party players you like.
There are lots of great things about Linux, but out of the box support for licensed video codecs isn’t magically better than Windows
I am talking about the prompting “on install”. Its just add on install and everything works. That sounds like out of the box support for me
Windows now supports other formats than BMP. It’s already a huge progress.
They started to support svg (which is 23 years old by now) in Office a month or so ago. What a time to be alive!
Obviously, they wanted to get it just right.
We even got GIF! Now that it’s starting to show its age.
PCX 😒
How many browsers open it natively?
Only Safari.
GIMP opens HEIC and WEBP files and it’s available on all operating systems.
You can change this in Settings > Camera > Formats > choose Most Compatible to change from HEIF/HEVC to JPEG/H.264
EDIT: I use XnViewMP to browse photos and it can convert HEIC to JPG and HandBrake can handle HEVC to MP4 or MKV.
It becomes a problem if you didn’t take the photos.
Ffmpeg
Have you got compatibility turned on in the photos app?
I didn’t take the photos.
Not sure if it works for HEIC, but here’s a tip for converting WEBP (common on websites) to a more universal format like PNG:
1: open Paint
2: open .WEBP in paint
3: save as -> PNG
4: give name and saveThere’s also a Firefox extension that I use that that lets you just save as PNG https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/save-webp-as-png-or-jpeg/
Or even better, use ImageMagick.
I just use Image Glass as image viewer and Icarus for the miniatures. For the videos I use MPC-HC.
Possibly Linux?
This is a work problem and a lot of software we use isn’t supported on Linux.
Possibly?
At minimum, we would need AutoCAD, Microstation, and Projectwise. We also need these exact programs as our clients require our CAD submittals to be in specific formats.
We also need Bluebeam Revu for other client coordination.
Thanks for the serious reply but I was just doing the “username checks out” thing
My username is possibly Linux so sometimes I just reply to random posts with possible linux as a joke.
I know, but my response sparked further discussion so it’s cool.
AutoCAD
It’s always funny with 3d. Graphics? You need Houdini? Of course it runs on Linux, it’s a UNIX-native program after all, first version ran on IRIX because what else would you use for 3d work but an SGI workstation and Linux is the commercial successor to IRIX. Blender, the same, just 5k bucks cheaper (and not everything is nodes, not yet). CAD? Everything’s suddenly windows-only because… how the hell did that came to be? Were they running 1990’s CAD software on Excel machines?
Neither Autodesk nor Bentley had a good economic reason to develop in Linux. Those companies also spend a lot of money on major clients to produce tools for them, which they then force all contractors to use.
I mean back in the days they should have been running on IRIX, and SGI switched over to Linux when they made the switch to x86 CPUs. Plenty of movie studios switched over to Linux workstations because of that, porting from IRIX to Linux is trivial compared to porting to Windows, why didn’t the same happen with CAD?
Wintel-PCs for the longest time just weren’t suitable for 3d work, they were office machines.
Both programs were developed to work on high end consumer laptops, which meant being able to work on IBM PC and therefore DOS.
Those programs also were likely 2D in their initial versions in the 1980’s. They were also competing against human drafting, which was considered to be industry standard at the time.
Cost and ease of use were likely more important than other potential users of 3D software, so they went with DOS and made the transition to Windows.
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I considered that, but it’s a paid app - yes it’s only a token amount (99p in UK, ymmv) but just as a point of principal, am I fuck paying extra just to be able to open some photos.
I was referring to “HEVC Video Extensions from Device Manufacturer”, which was free, but I just learned that it was taken down a year ago.
Ah, that’s a shame. Thanks anyway though :-)
I use an open source video codec library in Windows 10 but I’m away from my computer for a while and cannot tell you.
Yeah I hate this too - one of my clients regularly supplies images as HEIC files and they are always crappy to work with. Plus the images just seem much lower quality, which is a problem when they are being used for professional purposes.
It’s your imagination.
Maybe they’re doing something else to their files then, but seriously they are grainy as hell.
It might be something wrong with the camera or phone they used, but the format is solid.
Maybe, although it’s multiple people, so seems like it wouldn’t be a camera fault.
Possibly it’s how they are getting to me - I don’t get them directly, they come to via someone else, and I think the someone else may be getting them via WhatsApp (which I don’t use).
So in fact it’s maybe the compression from WA, rather than an issue with HEIC? I should have thought of that before!
I’m sure you don’t need telling, but just in case, I would check the meta data to see when the last time the file was edited. If it matches when they sent it to you, that’s the cause.
Ah, good shout, thanks I’ll do that 👍
