• toastal@lemmy.ml
    272·
    25 days ago

    I really wish Wayland was more fleshed out & stable before all of this happened. Color management isn’t even yet finalized & putting accurate colors on the screen is like the most important part.

    I really wish Arcan were further along.

      • LeFantome@programming.dev
        1·
        23 days ago

        Arcan is a cool idea but you mostly hear about it from people complaining that Wayland is not ready. Of course, Wayland is already used by more than half of Linux users and Arcan does not really exist yet.

    • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      24·
      24 days ago

      We live in a wild world where people feel so confident about the wayland snake oil that they only added color in 2024!

  • Gayhitler@lemmy.mlEnglish
    251·
    25 days ago

    I s2g im gonna become one of those psychos who runs the oldest Debian that still gets security updates behind a pfsense with whitelisting.

      • Gayhitler@lemmy.mlEnglish
        18·
        25 days ago

        Please forgive me, as a Debian user I’m prone to senior moments and will soon have my driving license legally revoked.

          • tetris11@lemmy.ml
            5·
            25 days ago

            Debian users are so stable, that they’re not allowed on planes.

            Debian users are so stable, that the Higgs boson was only found once thet had left the room.

            I have more mild disses.

      • data1701d (He/Him)@startrek.websiteEnglish
        2·
        25 days ago

        Stares in Debian Testing. (Though I use Bookworm on my laptop, probably soon to be Trixie. Nice thing about Trixie is I’ll no longer have to use the Backports kernel on my Thinkpad and can just stay on the LTS one.)

        • caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
          2·
          25 days ago

          I was looking for some excitement in my life so I installed Arch on my primary device.
          I’m disappointed. I’ve had zero issues.
          Okay, one issue, but I had that with Debian too. (recovering from sleep mode)

          • LeFantome@programming.dev
            2·
            23 days ago

            I use Arch and Debian. More issues on Debian for sure. Both have way fewer problems than Ubuntu. The myths around this really bug me.

  • Magnus Åhall@lemmy.ahall.se
    16·
    25 days ago

    I’m using a 49" monitor and dividing it up in virtual X11 monitors/screens for flexibility. Running a tiling window manager with lots of virtual desktops, but with fullscreen support separate monitors are still needed. Wayland are still missing the support for dividing up the display, which is probably the last thing keeping me on X11.

    • Yozul@beehaw.org
      9·
      25 days ago

      XFCE is still using GTK 3, why would they care what Gnome does with GTK 5? Nobody but Gnome is even using GTK 4.

      • data1701d (He/Him)@startrek.websiteEnglish
        3·
        25 days ago

        Not necessarily - pavucontrol switched to GTK4, and there are a lot of other applications that I use that are on it as well. If XFCE stays on X11, I wouldn’t be able to run any application that updates to GTK5 (except through some hack like running Weston nested in X, which I used to do when I used Waydroid).

        • Yozul@beehaw.org
          3·
          25 days ago

          It’s true that there are some apps not directly associated with any DE that have moved to GTK4. If GTK5 actually was likely to come out any time soon you might have to worry about finding alternatives when they switch to GTK5. That being said though, GTK3 had been out for over 9 years before GTK4 came along, there were 4 years between the “last” version of GTK3 and GTK 4.0.0, they’re still in the “oh, this is what we’ll probably do when we release GTK5” phase of development, XFCE has already made a bunch of progress porting everything over to Wayland, and DE agnostic apps are less likely to switch over right away if mid-size DEs like XFCE and Cinnamon still don’t have good Wayland support. I wouldn’t stress out about it too much.

  • MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zipEnglish
    11·
    25 days ago

    The lack of proper tablet support in wayland prevents me from being excited for this. I wish there was more news on that front.

    • dkc@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      25 days ago

      You mean like Wacom tablets? I’m curious to know what’s missing. I’ve been using one of those XP Pen tablets on GNOME and Wayland without much issue. I’m using it for writing more than drawing though.

        • Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2·
          24 days ago

          I couldn’t figure out how I’m supposed to use my pen for scrolling (I decided to stop using mouse and shelved it) so I bought a macropad with 3 knobs and ascended to godhood.

      • MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2·
        24 days ago

        I mean, my issue is that most buttons on my huion are still non bindable, and some graphical interfaces cannot be interacted with in mouse mode and only register as touch. Lastly, occasionally programs completely ignore pen sensitivity, such as blender.

        This experience was when I was last on gnome. I’ve been on budgie for a while as a result of needing a tablet for my hobbies.

    • LeFantome@programming.dev
      2·
      23 days ago

      By the time GTK5 appears, a vanishingly small percentage of Linux users will need X11.

      I run Wayland on 2009 hardware now.

      As toolkits abandon X11, it is going to pressure other operating systems to move to Wayland as well.

      FreeBSD is already moving. Even Haiku has Wayland support. So we are talking about the smaller BSDs and the Solaris derivatives. Or ancient operating systems on original hardware I guess. In which case, they can run the older apps which is likely all they can run anyway.

      Worst, worst case, you can run Wayland on x11. If there is something you absolutely need, I guess you can run Wayland apps on x11 that way.

  • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
    44·
    24 days ago

    Oh no…

    Anyways, another reason why to use Qt rather than GTK for your app.