Not that many people use email much anymore, but as you often need an email address to sign up for other shit… anyway, I need a better option than gmail, I’m sure you can appreciate why. Email is so old school at this point that most of the time I don’t even think about it anymore.

Anyway, I need some email options that aren’t gmail or otherwise attached to a billionaire. I’m not really interested in non-email methods of communication, I’m specifically asking about email.

Thanks in advance.

  • TheFermentalist@lemm.eeEnglish
    3·
    4 days ago

    Rise up has changed their invite policy to one every 24 hours. I am sending out invites in order of request, but have had (to date) 21 DM’s. I have to draw a line and will send one per day until I am cut off.

    Thanks

  • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
    421·
    7 days ago

    Not that many people use email much anymore

    Where do you live, because I want to go there immediately.

  • snake@slrpnk.netEnglish
    23·
    7 days ago

    i currently use tuta. it has a free tier, offers encryption, is open source, gdpr-compliant, and is 100% powered by green energy.

    i have used mailbox in the past, which is paid (cheapest tier is ~€12/yr). i can recommend it as well.

  • Lime Buzz (fae/she)@beehaw.orgEnglish
    13·
    7 days ago

    Disroot - A lot of people in the know about privacy seem to really like it.

    Really though email is a bullshit communication medium and unless you’re insisting on using GPG for every message and make sure your or other people’s keys never got compromised I wouldn’t rely on it.

    Really hoping Dark Mail actually becomes a thing at some point. If it was that with locally stored encrypted email then email might actually be worth bothering with.

  • paequ2@lemmy.todayEnglish
    71·
    7 days ago

    I’m currently using Migadu. It’s $20/year for their cheapest plan. They give you a lot of control over the email service, so it might not be the best if you’re a noob. In fact, they require you bring a domain name. But, they let you create unlimited users, aliases, have fancy routing, etc.

    https://purelymail.com/ looks interesting too. And is cheaper at $10/year.

    If you do decide to get a custom domain, just some tips:

    • get something that ends in .net or even better .com because shitty companies with shitty IT departments will block other TLDs (I’ve had this happen with FedEx and my local garbage company). There is no spam folder for them, the email just explodes.
    • probably don’t pick a domain with one of your names it in for better anonymity, unless I guess you have a popular last name? john@smith.com looks cool, but consider if you want random sites like lemmy to have that data.
    • don’t pick a homophone or weird word because at some point you’ll have to speak your email to another human and it’s really awkward to tell your bank that your email is john@piggy.park or john@maill.com or was it john@male.com?

    Also, the web interfaces of some of these other email services might not be as good as Gmail’s UI. It helps to use an email client instead. Thunderbird is fine or you could use something simpler like claws-mail or even something like mutt.

  • Crotaro@beehaw.orgEnglish
    1·
    5 days ago

    I really can’t speak on the security or data privacy of it, since I’m not knowledgeable enough in these topics, but I pay 1€ per month for Port87. I just love the ability to easily create sub-adresses and never have to worry about my “main adresses” receiving the spam I get for e.g. online shopping

  • TypicalHog@lemm.eeEnglish
    84·
    6 days ago

    Protonmail. I have over 25 different online accounts/identities (each one for a different topic gaming, movies, music, coding etc.), all Protonmail based.

      • TypicalHog@lemm.eeEnglish
        31·
        6 days ago

        Absolutely. But one thing I didn’t like was it locked me from using Proton services (even free plan) once my premium plan ran out until I paid $6 cancelation fee BS.

    • Luffy879@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1014·
      6 days ago

      Proton is run by a fascist. Its only a matter of time until they too will Start sucking Trumps balls

      • TypicalHog@lemm.eeEnglish
        145·
        6 days ago

        LOL. Proton is absolutely not run by a fascist. You should learn what fascism is and what they do. Proton CEO is way WAY more tame than actual fascists. It’s actually not even close IMO.

        • sanzky@beehaw.orgEnglish
          8·
          6 days ago

          he is at least a very dumb person if he believes Trump sides against bigtech

      • sanzky@beehaw.orgEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        do you know of alternative? I wanted to leave them because of this but found they most other options were not as close as good.

  • BertramDitore@lemm.eeEnglish
    432·
    7 days ago

    Most if not all non-paid options will have privacy concerns similar to gmail, so you’ll have to pay. I pay for Proton, and though I’m not thrilled about some of the political bullshit their CEO has been up to recently, I think I’ll stay with them for now since they’re still good for privacy, and their other services are solid. They’re also very upfront about what they charge and why, and I think they still plan to transition to a non-profit.

    • Lime Buzz (fae/she)@beehaw.orgEnglish
      1317·
      7 days ago

      It’s not just the pro-trump stuff though, there’s also the case of being very pro-cop in that they helped get info about a french activist against their will or settings, we believe.

      • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
        251·
        7 days ago

        God, I can’t believe people are still spreading this nonsense. Proton complied with a legal warrant. Name another company on the planet that will receive a legal warrant and refuses to comply. I’ll wait.

          • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.orgEnglish
            101·
            7 days ago

            how the fuck do you run an email provider without storing anything on disk, first of all?

            next point is mullvad is ready to close shop if that’s what they need to do after a raid. but of you’re storing people’s data for their request basically, like Proton, you can’t just do that because everyone will be mad for losing their data and access to the email service.

            finally, Proton does provide a way to use their services in secret, as they run their onion site. login over Tor, done. but probably also create the account over Tor, and never log in through clearnet with that account

            • optissima@lemmy.mlEnglish
              43·
              7 days ago

              I was answering

              Name another company on the planet that will receive a legal warrant and refuses to comply. I’ll wait.

              • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
                5·
                7 days ago

                No you weren’t. Not having the information is not the same thing as refusing to comply.

          • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
            4·
            7 days ago

            Mullvad doesn’t host email. The warrant pertained to emails, not a VPN.

            • optissima@lemmy.mlEnglish
              21·
              7 days ago

              Not having logs helps a ton with anonymity, and your question didn’t have that requirement.

              • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
                51·
                7 days ago

                Because it didn’t need it. Email cannot function with the same level of logging as a VPN. My question was about refusal to comply, which Mullvad did not do.

      • BertramDitore@lemm.eeEnglish
        5·
        7 days ago

        That definitely sounds concerning, do you have a link or anything? Any company would have to comply with a legal court order regardless of their preference or ideology, so how they comply comes down to the amount of information they store and for how long. Just saying, the fact that they helped the cops (as much as I hate the cops in general) doesn’t necessarily mean they handed everything over or volunteered anything they weren’t legally obligated to provide. But I don’t know the specifics of the case you mentioned.

      • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        12·
        5 days ago

        Oh, shut up already with that misinformation bullshit. Don’t even for a moment pretend if your government showed up with a warrant for information that you would be some fucking noble idiot and refuse to comply. And if you even dare pretend otherwise, you’re a fucking liar.

        They gave the Swiss his IP and nothing else, and loudly complained about having to do so and how it was government overreach. Even if they had chosen to immediately shut down, they still would have had their servers seized and been given no choice to comply.