cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19944734
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (KCTV) - A sight previously thought to be science fiction is very real at a southeast Kansas City shopping center. Instead of a police officer, a security robot has been patrolling sidewalks and shoppers are taking notice.
Since Marshall the robot has been on the job, shoppers say the experiences have completely changed when they come to these stores. The robot can spend 23 hours a day monitoring the parking lot from all angles which gives people a new sense of protection and ease they don’t always have when out.
Marshall took over security at Brywood Centre in April. Before that, Karen White noticed a lot of trouble outside the shopping center.
“Sometimes it’d be concerning for your car like someone could take it or something,” White said.
Knowing now that Marshall is always watching, the risk of crime does not worry her or others as much.
“It made it very better, like you can’t be in the parking lot without seeing the robot,” White continued. “So, I think it scared them off.”
He has a license plate reader, he has facial recognition, he can read IP addresses from your cell phone or watch,”
Uhhhh… How is it reading the ip addresses of people’s phones?
I imagine it MITM’s the wifi? Obviously wouldn’t work with cellular but thats the only this claim can ve even remotely true.
That being said they could do some shit with malicious bluetooth/NFC behaviour but that would be a crime.
Well its probably not a MITM if its just an official access point
That’s fair. MITM wouldn’t be the right term.
Obviously wouldn’t work with cellular
Ever hear of a stingray?
Why would it need to MITM the WiFi? The store runs and operates the wifi
good point.
I’ve heard for a while that stores use Bluetooth to track you as you go through a store. Not for anything nefarious but just to understand how people move around the store typically. So it probably does that too.
Someone made a mistake here. It’s not getting your IP address. An IP address is assigned by the gateway when you’re connected to an access point. An IP address is not an identity. They are always changing and can be shared. This has already been tested and upheld in court.
It’s actually collecting your MAC address. Which is exchanged when your phone or tablet scan nearby WiFi points or Bluetooth devices. However, this can already be defeated. By default iOS and Android both have the option to randomise the MAC address in intervals. Making it extremely difficult to prove anything. This feature exists because the devices real MAC address never changes. It is unique. Alternatively, users can disable WiFi and Bluetooth scanning entirely. However, your device no longer participates in the Find My Devices program by Apple and Google, location does take longer to acquire in some scenarios, and accuracy may take longer to triangulate.
Counter-argument, this is all correct, but when the application is against shopping mall criminals it will work well enough. Not talking masterminds here
It probably just has a WiFi repeater in it
I bet it was something like the hardware id instead but she misspoke
It must be for wifi that they operate.
Scarier than I thought 😭
“Pick up your gum wrapper. You have 20 seconds to comply…”
Pick up that can
One time I threw it at him and it managed to bounce off of his chest into the can. I’ve never been able to replicate it. He still chased me around the room through lol.
I like to throw it at them, then sprint away to see if I can make it outside before I get smacked. It’s about 50/50.
put it. in the trash can.
gun wrapper
Ha, good catch. Damn you autocorrect!
I read that in dalek voice
I read that in ED-209
Does it resemble a Dalek on purpose, I wonder?
It’s like if Aperture Science designed a Dalek
Perfection
I believe you mean:
This is a triumph
I think so, lol. Dalek security guards are scary indeed.
Imagine shoplifting and they show up at the exit like:
HOLT!
I’m pretty sure privacy goes out the window when you commit a crime. If it isn’t robots it would be humans arresting you.
Don’t support criminals in any form as they are the ones who are actively creating a need to stop crime.
The bootlicking version of “why do you need privacy if you have nothing to hide?”
One of these hit my car. It was out patrolling randomly in a parking lot and I pulled up to get a better look at it. I stopped like 6 ft in front of it but it just kept on coming and ran into my fucking car.
“You are illegally parked on private property. You have twenty seconds to move your vehicle.” -ED-209
Sorry, I laughed. Did it do damage? What was the outcome?
Left some paint on the car but that was it.
That’s the downside of having the invisible boatmobile, they just keep coming
EXTERMINATE!!!
CITIZEN! DO NOT BE ALARMED! YOU WILL FEEL A SMALL TICKLING SENSATION AND THEN DEATH!
Wasn’t this the exact plot of Revolution of the Daleks?
I knew I was not the only one
All I’m getting out of this is further proof that the “general publics” sense of safety exists entirely removed from anything fact based
Yeah all I see is an expensive CCTV system with high ongoing costs. Seriously it can be overpowered by a trash bag. It’s entirely security theatre.
Surveillance is the purpose… Security is the propaganda for the normies to accept the regime’s overreach
This is relatively low on my list of privacy concerns, being that it seems to be patrolling and surveiling privately owned property.
it literally says it reads shit off your phone/other smart devices, you’re being tracked
privately owned property
quick, name a space that isn’t
National Parks?
It’s good that you’re concerned about the data your phone may be revealing to other nearby devices. It’s generally a good idea to have bluetooth/wifi/nfc turned off if you’re not actively using them. Even without the robot, you have no idea what data companies might be collecting when you’re physically on their property.
Why WiFi? They can’t get much data from WiFi. If you use a VPN, all they’ll see is a bunch of encrypted data going to a VPN server.
I think the lady said they know the IP address of every phone but that doesnt make much sense. anyway, the point was that theyre using the signals from your phone to uniquely identify you. you can simply turn those radios in your phone off when youre not using them.
Interesting, but this question is 10 years old. are you sure android didn’t fix this? They released Mac address randomization since then
I think they are more concerned about mass surveillance that is run by nation states or large companies and data brokers. At the end of the day Target can’t track you if you don’t go to Target. However, Target could buy your data in order to make an ad to get you to go to Target
Radio signals don’t recognize property boundaries.
nor does visible light
Almost all of your life happens on someone else’s private property
Although I imagine once you’re in the club of billionaire elites, you’ll be really happy to have taken this live and let live approach towards this matter
BIG BROTHER advanced to level 3.
On the one hand, yes, on the other hand, it’s unlikely to brutalize or kill people for minor offenses, so maybe a win for a public space?
I don’t know about you but I don’t like to be watched by big brother all the time.
Right there with you, but there’s no legal expectation of privacy in public, so it’s futile to complain about on that basis. Especially when ring doorbell cams are everywhere already. So the silver lining is a security robot won’t do this.
maybe no legal expectation, however I ask you when were you or any other common person asked about legal expectations. don’t come with “everyone at election”, because everyone knows its not true, in any sense
Dude, we’re on the same side in this, I just know
whatsome battles have already been lost.i understand, and sorry if I offended you. my problem was you were referring to a legal expectation as if that should be everyone’s personal expectation
Not offended, just seemed like you thought I was excusing it. I’m not - just acknowledging it. 🙂
Just put a blind fold on it?
Unlikely, but there is still a chance. It could always call its pig cousins to brutalize or kill you on its behalf.
Fair point!
First of all if you’re too scared to go into a store because you think your car is going to be robbed You’re probably too scared to live in public. However from the description it sounds like this thing’s just a tall camera? It can’t do anything except monitor? So how is this any better than those towers with cameras on them?
Psychology. Ever see ring doorbell footage where the owner says “drop the package” and people do? Its not like the owner could do anything, but for some reason it makes people behave differently.
This is missouri, it’s not unrealistic that a car especially a those kias might get stolen.
This is in a pretty rough part of town
Imagine it had guns and tasers its gonna end horribly
This’ll last until somebody with a mask spray paints the cameras.
even just a blindfold or a bedsheet over the cameras could do the job
did the engineers install red leds in the eyes? if yes we might have a problem
exactly my thought
people consumed all these dystopian movies and thought “what a great rubric for society!” we’re so fucked lol. These death machines (like drones and such) are also where the most work and funding go for machine learning and AI research too. What could go wroooong
Don’t post pictures of text
It isn’t just text in this case
Its mostly text. how can blind people read the text? We need to downvote people who post pictures of text without transcribing it. Mods are really failing at this