I have a very old Facebook account i haven’t touched for no less than 10+ years. I had decided to just let it decay under the reasoning that old data is worse than useless to them, but now in light of Facebook announcing they’ll take it all to train for LLMs if you don’t opt out, i am unsure if to continue leaving that account to rot, or if to recover it, opt out, then doing the delete procedure. What would you say is the best choice?
I would recommend resurrecting it.
Once you do so; Lock it down, make everything private that you can.
Secondly change all the privacy settings and opt out of any AI training.
Then slowly go back through your history and scrub out your posts; replacing them with gibberish and junk. Do not use AI text IMHO; use something like ‘lorem ipsum’ or some kind of ‘Markov chain babbler’.
I would just suggest scrubbing back through your history slowly once a day; editing a few posts here or there. Look into what exactly the rate-limits might be; so that you can avoid triggering whatever automated suspensions that exist and edit one or two posts less than that a day.
Avoid using automation, as this too can be detected possibly…but do remember you can use other tools that run on your PC only to help streamline your editing.
In general, it’s better if you can manually review and scrub over your old posts slowly. That way you can best decide how each posting and image will be scrambled. Maybe one post gets lorem ipsum in strategic places and the other gets 1000xTranslated into a barely plausible word salad.
Perhaps other times you feed the post into a markov babbler and let it babble on for a few minutes. Perhaps you leave a few otherwise innocuous posts alone so that the poison doesn’t look so suspicious while you sanitize anything that you might consider sensitive.
Once a few months have passed and you’ve deleted all the sensitive information from the account that you can possibly edit or change; then you can proceed to deleting the account and waiting out that process.
Leave it to rot - if you have left, then don’t go back to that cesspool…
Revive and delete all media, then delete the account. In practice, it likely doesn’t mean much, but it does technically mean you sort of “deny further permissions” to use the data you left there. Again, IRL they’ll use it anyway.
Also, don’t leave an account associated with your name there to possibly get hacked years from now and abuse any connections you have.
Also an option if it’s not tied to your name, revive it and sell it. Aged accounts can be worth about $50+ to sell to scammers.
Hmmm.
How about deleting old content and then filling the timeline with AI gibberish?
I don’t have an account, and I’m not willing to create one just to do this, but it’s a golden situation: use an account you’re going to delete anyway to poison the well.
Nice idea, but it’ll get flagged if you do too much going back in time.
And? Are they going to take away my birthday? OP is already consisting just purging everything; it’s not like they have much they can do but lock him out. And if all he leaves being is AI garbage, I don’t see the downside.
No, the account gets flagged as too many old changes, an indicator of being hacked. Suspended for 6 months is the usual FB policy.
I don’t trust Meta to actually delete all copies of my data if I “delete” my accounts, but I will lose access to any privacy controls if I do it.
So, I have been deleting my posts, comments, photos, etc… stripping the account down to a mostly empty shell. Sometimes you can find browser scripts to help automate this.
I might add some junk data to the account later.
There’s no disadvantage to deleting your account…?
Last time I tried to login to Facebook they wanted a picture of me to verify. Said fuck that and left it to rot
I deleted mine. Leaving old accounts around gives hackers another thing to potentially get into. You could always log in, ensure it’s locked down, and log out forever.
Delete
Even if you log back in to opt out, you can probably assume whatever data you gave them is already being used for AI. Best to abandon Meta and let it implode by itself.
I haven’t tried it myself but I’ve seen other people say that when they go back to an old Facebook account, Facebook will require a scan of their ID in order to log in. They can be a real removed about letting people log in to accounts that have been inactive for a long time.
I can confirm. But a couple years back, there were alternatives to that (none of which privacy-friendly) - if you can find the tiny, easy to overlook link “try something else”.
It doesn’t even have to be a long time. Just changing IPs in a way they find suspicious is enough.
Same for Google btw and probably all large US American platforms.
scary.
I’d say leave it. I don’t know about at Facebook, but lots of companies still have that data in their database. They just remove publicly facing versions or index to it. And even if they do remove it they’d have backups and wont go through every backup ever to remove your info. So you’ll always be in there. And even if for some reason they close, they’ll sell all that data to someone else. We have digital ghosts floating everywhere. Don’t give them anymore pieces of you. Just walk away and never look back IMO.
edit: you never logged in in 10+ years? Unless you know there’s sensitive stuff in there, leave it. You probably won’t even be able to log in without going through major hoops.
I decided to actively delete my account a couple of years back. I did NOT want to scan my ID, as they demanded, but there were always other options. None of which appealed to me since they were clearly designed to get one last bit of valuable info for my shadow profile, but I went with the option to have 3 friends vouch for me.
After that I was told that it would take 30 days or so and trying to log in during that time would be interpreted as canceling my deletion. I never did.
I’ve deleted my account like 4 times and if I try it now, untouched for 2 years since the last ‘deletion’ I bet it’ll just log in.
So yeah if there’s nothing sensitive just ignore it.
Hey thanks for asking I had the same question !!
A solution I would like is an automated way to poison my old data and edit all my old post, change image and edit all my comments with something non related and totally false.
After some digging, their api is very limited and doesn’t allow such thing very easily. My programming skills beeing very limited I gave it a try with AI (yeah I know this is kinda “hypocrite” but we have to fight their empire with their own weapons…) and found out about a very cool tool you can selfhost and give instruction to execute this kind of operation in an automated way with AI !
It’s called browser use and it’s the open source alternative to ChatGPT operator. I haven’t tried it yet so I can’t give you any feedback but If that’s something you have the horse power for you can give it a try to slowely poison and edit all your facebook data without hitting their limit or their alert !
Does omebody know about a trusted tool for easy deletion of specific chunks of info from Facebook?
I would like to keep some stuff so no copycats can be made, but I’d like to delete things such as my “liked movies” and shit.
You can use my subscription to Redact if you want