Honestly, for a community (lemmy) that wanted to get away from corporate stuff (reddit) it pains me to see how even the most basic thing to draw is being delegated to Ai (corporations).
Sorry for the misunderstanding, this was a crosspost, I didn’t generate it. But image searching shows a few matches elsewhere, so I doubt who I crossposted it from generated it either
I’ve come to the conclusion in the last couple weeks I simply can’t identify AI images anymore. I have no clue what about this makes everyone call it out as AI, and there’s have been many such instances of this happening with me lately. I’m going to get modern day Nigerian princed when I’m older I can feel it in my bones
I asked AI to add soul, but it said it was a thing weak, insecure people believe in when they can’t accept the inevitiblity of their death and the meaninglessness of their lives.
I hate this take. Not everyone can afford to pay for art or have the ability to draw.People need to get off AI’s back and instead of complaining, figure out how to deal with it. Because it’s not going anywhere.
Don’t talk about ability to draw as though it’s some sort of elitist trait denied to the working class. People who can draw can do so because they put the hours in.
If you can’t be bothered putting the effort in when expressing yourself, why the hell should anyone else be interested in what you have to say?
I don’t have enough time to learn I have to work to try and live the bleak few hours of life I get to myself a week. honestly with AI our bosses expect more it’s slowing down
You have my sympathies, but that still doesn’t mean you get to post complete nonsensical garbage where a glass of water is talking for no reason, that took you less effort to create than it did to read, and expect people to not tell you to jog on, when there’s a whole wealth of creative artists out there who are putting in the energy but getting their space flooded with slop.
The web has objectively become much, much worse in the past 12 months because quality is getting drowned out by quantity.
but that still doesn’t mean you get to post complete nonsensical garbage where a glass of water is talking for no reason
How dare Dali paint pictures with melting clocks! If the clocks really were hot enough to melt, they would set the tree they’re melting on ablaze!!!11
I get it. Artists are afraid of their income. But with those kinds of takes, “AI bad because surrealism” I can’t take you seriously as an artist so I guess nothing would be lost.
Surrealism is not nonsense. It has a purpose, even if that purpose is hard to tell. If you think Dali and AI slop is the same, you don’t understand either.
Fine. If it’s offending your senses too much to be tame surrealism, call it dada. If you think that replacing a person with an object cannot be an artistic choice, you… well, haven’t seen much art.
Note that I’m not arguing for or against AI here. I’m saying that your critique of AI is slop.
If you think that replacing a person with an object cannot be an artistic choice
Literally nobody is saying or thinking that. What we are saying is that there is absolutely no way that OP’s prompt contained “…and make the optimist BE the glass itself…”.
The irony is that you’re giving OP way more benefit of the doubt in your reading of what they produced than you’ve given me, and instead argued against a complete strawman.
It’s not dada. It’s too coherent to be dada, and it’s too shit to be anything else.
In order for something to be an artistic choice, it has to be a choice. It has to have meaning and intent. AI did not choose to put a glass there, it calculated that there was probably a glass there based on shitty reasoning. AI does not have the creative capacity to make art. It can only make images, and those images are shit.
You’ve thoroughly proven you can’t tell between slop and high art, so thank you for the compliment of my critique.
Because the idea behind it is good? You’re confusing art and craft. Why should anyone be interested in a urinal on a pedestal? The work is defined not by whether or not you can buy its physical representation in any random hardware store, I thought we had that one figured out.
Also there’s literally zero people who would pay someone a commission to draw this piece. You’re not looking at lost work you’re looking at additional art. Without AI (if it is AI) it might have still existed but in stick figure form and that would be better because…? The idea has better expression as a chicken scratch? I don’t think so.
AI is like a housefire. Nobody wants it. Nobody needs it. It’s just a bad thing, and if someone sees it, they’re more than justified in being upset and trying to get rid of it. Don’t defend the fire, or you’ll be the first to burn.
Honestly, for a community (lemmy) that wanted to get away from corporate stuff (reddit) it pains me to see how even the most basic thing to draw is being delegated to Ai (corporations).
But, not all AI is corporate run, there’s plenty of AI models to choose from that are open source including image generation models
And actually, image generation models are much easier to run on “affordable” consumer hardware than LLMs
If they don’t have the training data available, then I wouldn’t consider them open source.
Well, technicaly you have training data available - the whole internet
Which model did you use to generate this, and what tool did you use?
Sorry for the misunderstanding, this was a crosspost, I didn’t generate it. But image searching shows a few matches elsewhere, so I doubt who I crossposted it from generated it either
I’ve come to the conclusion in the last couple weeks I simply can’t identify AI images anymore. I have no clue what about this makes everyone call it out as AI, and there’s have been many such instances of this happening with me lately. I’m going to get modern day Nigerian princed when I’m older I can feel it in my bones
The reason this one is blatant AI is that the imagery doesn’t make any sense. Why is the glass of water itself the optimist?
I fed it into ChatGPT, highlighted the errors, and told it what I wanted to be different.
Still looks kinda soulless.
I asked AI to add soul, but it said it was a thing weak, insecure people believe in when they can’t accept the inevitiblity of their death and the meaninglessness of their lives.
I hate this take. Not everyone can afford to pay for art or have the ability to draw.People need to get off AI’s back and instead of complaining, figure out how to deal with it. Because it’s not going anywhere.
You are aware that even if you make stickmans, people will appreciate it if the meme is good, right?
Don’t talk about ability to draw as though it’s some sort of elitist trait denied to the working class. People who can draw can do so because they put the hours in.
If you can’t be bothered putting the effort in when expressing yourself, why the hell should anyone else be interested in what you have to say?
I don’t have enough time to learn I have to work to try and live the bleak few hours of life I get to myself a week. honestly with AI our bosses expect more it’s slowing down
You have my sympathies, but that still doesn’t mean you get to post complete nonsensical garbage where a glass of water is talking for no reason, that took you less effort to create than it did to read, and expect people to not tell you to jog on, when there’s a whole wealth of creative artists out there who are putting in the energy but getting their space flooded with slop.
The web has objectively become much, much worse in the past 12 months because quality is getting drowned out by quantity.
How dare Dali paint pictures with melting clocks! If the clocks really were hot enough to melt, they would set the tree they’re melting on ablaze!!!11
I get it. Artists are afraid of their income. But with those kinds of takes, “AI bad because surrealism” I can’t take you seriously as an artist so I guess nothing would be lost.
Surrealism is not nonsense. It has a purpose, even if that purpose is hard to tell. If you think Dali and AI slop is the same, you don’t understand either.
Fine. If it’s offending your senses too much to be tame surrealism, call it dada. If you think that replacing a person with an object cannot be an artistic choice, you… well, haven’t seen much art.
Note that I’m not arguing for or against AI here. I’m saying that your critique of AI is slop.
Literally nobody is saying or thinking that. What we are saying is that there is absolutely no way that OP’s prompt contained “…and make the optimist BE the glass itself…”.
The irony is that you’re giving OP way more benefit of the doubt in your reading of what they produced than you’ve given me, and instead argued against a complete strawman.
It’s not dada. It’s too coherent to be dada, and it’s too shit to be anything else.
In order for something to be an artistic choice, it has to be a choice. It has to have meaning and intent. AI did not choose to put a glass there, it calculated that there was probably a glass there based on shitty reasoning. AI does not have the creative capacity to make art. It can only make images, and those images are shit.
You’ve thoroughly proven you can’t tell between slop and high art, so thank you for the compliment of my critique.
Because the idea behind it is good? You’re confusing art and craft. Why should anyone be interested in a urinal on a pedestal? The work is defined not by whether or not you can buy its physical representation in any random hardware store, I thought we had that one figured out.
Also there’s literally zero people who would pay someone a commission to draw this piece. You’re not looking at lost work you’re looking at additional art. Without AI (if it is AI) it might have still existed but in stick figure form and that would be better because…? The idea has better expression as a chicken scratch? I don’t think so.
I’m pretty sure anyone can draw stick figures.
A lot of bad things are “not going anywhere”. We can still try to have less of them.
You’d be surprised.
AI is like a housefire. Nobody wants it. Nobody needs it. It’s just a bad thing, and if someone sees it, they’re more than justified in being upset and trying to get rid of it. Don’t defend the fire, or you’ll be the first to burn.