I’m getting back into coding and I’m going to start with python but I wanted to see what are some good IDEs to write the code. Thanks in advance.

  • leastprivilege@lemmy.ml
    7·
    3 days ago

    Neovim! Here is a good video to get started TJ DeVries. If you just want to give it a shot there are a lot of preconfigured options like lunar vim or NVchad.

    • Urist@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      17 hours ago

      LunarVim is dead I think. In the issues section the (main?) dev says they recommend switching to something else and that they have gone over to Astronvim.

  • tapdattl@lemmy.world
    5·
    3 days ago

    I’m a big fan of vim/neovim with nerdtree and airline added in.

    I’ve also been tryingourt Zed recently, it natively supports vim keybindings, so my workflow hasn’t changed, but its lightning fast (programmed in rust) compared to vs-codium (an electron app)

  • Eugenia@lemmy.mlEnglish
    341·
    5 days ago

    My husband, who mostly codes in assembly these days (he’s mostly retired so his hobby is old atari, amstrad, and spectrum computers), went from VSCode, to Sublime, to now Kate. He prefers to use 100% open source apps, without strings attached. VSCode is nice, but it has lots of weird stuff in it that aren’t necessarily up to the spirit of open source. So Kate works perfectly for him, although VSCodium would do well as well (it’s just that Kate has better syntax highlighters for his weird assembly). Also VSCode/ium is using about 250 MB of RAM, while Kate about 45 (and Sublime only about 32).

    • NullStreamer@feddit.orgEnglish
      192·
      5 days ago

      I’d suggest going with LazyVIM / SpaceVIM as a starting point, though, as configuring vim from blank state is an art itself and requires quite some time and dedication.

      • communism@lemmy.ml
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        3 days ago

        configuring vim from blank state is an art itself and requires quite some time and dedication.

        Not really sure where you got this from. It’s quite simple to me. The default vim config works completely fine for me if I’m eg in a VM and I don’t want to copy all my vimrc and plugins over, if it’s a machine I’ll be using more long-term then it’s quite quick to configure a few settings to be how I prefer them to be. Main changes I make to a default config is enabling line numbers (idk anyone who wouldn’t want line numbers tbh) and setting them to be relative, set scrolloff=9999, use 4 spaces for indent, enable line and column highlighting, set a theme, and a couple odd scripts, but again the default is perfectly usable and the tweaks in my vimrc are just to my personal taste.

  • Ziglin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    4 days ago

    I’m slowly learning Emacs, I’d say I like it but it’s a lot of config work and I wouldn’t recommend it to somebody who hasn’t programmed before.

    • conrad82@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      I agree. I learned and used emacs and org mode for several years. With age, I now want simpler tools that do not need extensive configuration. Using mainly Spyder and VS Code for python coding

    • QuazarOmega@lemy.lol
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      3 days ago

      Don’t be ashamed, I think a lot here secretly like it, it’s just very extensible because so many use it in the form of VSCode and it’s just great for what it is, despite being Microsoft’s for all intents and purposes

  • utopiah@lemmy.ml
    4·
    4 days ago

    Because people ask for an IDE, rather than an editor, I will say :

    Vim + terminal(s) + containerization (e.g. Docker CLI, Python venv) + live reloading (e.g. nodemon or inotify or in the browser using e.g. server side events) + repository management (e.g. git in CLI to juggle between branches, push/pull local/remotely)

    IMHO this is very VERY light (0 wait even on a RPi Zero) and yet very flexible.

    Also most of that can be “saved” via e.g screen the CLI tool, allowing to have named windows in a terminal and a lot more than to e.g. screen -raAD, locally or remotely.

  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
    13·
    5 days ago

    I really like Kate as an advanced editor with syntax highlighting, auto-completion, plugin support. I would then use the Terminal pane at the bottom to run my code during development.

    However, if you want a full IDE with included dependency management, test runner, and debugger it’s probably not enough.

    One of my professors said you don’t need an IDE, the Linux system already is a development environment. Not sure that I fully agree with that, especially thinking of things like Android Studio that include the virtual machine smartphone, but it’s still an approach thing that is worth trying out.

    • Captain Beyond@linkage.ds8.zone
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      4 days ago

      One of my professors said you don’t need an IDE, the Linux system already is a development environment.

      Considering “the Linux system” is literally anything you throw on top of the kernel called Linux, it can be a development environment or anything you want it to be. But I think part of the appeal of an IDE is how all the parts integrate (the “I” in “IDE”) so a bunch of packages thrown together might not provide the same cohesive feeling.

      • communism@lemmy.ml
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        3 days ago

        Considering “the Linux system” is literally anything you throw on top of the kernel called Linux, it can be a development environment or anything you want it to be.

        I’d just like to interject for a moment…

      • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
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        4 days ago

        Considering “the Linux system” is literally anything you throw on top of the kernel called Linux, it can be a development environment or anything you want it to be.

        Yeah I thought about the same thing when posting, if anything it would have to be the the combination of tools available on Linux. Like GNU binutils, GCC, GNU emacs, GDB, Git. But that’s how I remember him saying it. Either my memory is wrong, or he just wasn’t that precise in his language.

        But I think part of the appeal of an IDE is how all the parts integrate (the “I” in “IDE”) so a bunch of packages thrown together might not provide the same cohesive feeling.

        I agree, it may not be what you want if you’re looking for an IDE.

        But, like me back then, if you’re new to the Linux ecosystem, it’s good to hear at least once that you don’t strictly need to look for an IDE. And that you can instead use disparate CLI tools together, to make for an experience that some people end up preferring.

    • Telorand@reddthat.com
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      5 days ago

      Nobody needs an IDE. After all, you can just open a blank file and get straight to work. I could also just use Linux without a DE. Who needs all those graphics, amirite? I could also use a can with some string instead of a phone—or better yet, just shout really loud!

      (/j)

      • utopiah@lemmy.ml
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        4 days ago

        use Linux without a DE. […] (/j)

        … actually (tip fedora hat) not but seriously actually most of what we NEED is fine that way. It sounds ludicrous then you try Sxmo on a phone and you can’t help but GENUINELY wonder “Damn… did I get scammed all those years?”

  • Luna@lemdro.idEnglish
    14·
    5 days ago

    I use Helix. It’s kinda like a preconfigured Neovim. I really like it, my only complaint is that it (currently) doesn’t have a filetree

    • sntx@lemm.ee
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      3 days ago

      I came to the conclusion that a fuzzy finder (SPC-f) + goto definition (g-d)/implementation (g-i) is better than a filetree in all my usecases…

    • balsoft@lemmy.ml
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      5 days ago

      Seconded. I’m coming from Emacs (+evil), so I’m still missing a few features (proper git integration a-la magit, collaborative editing a-la crdt.el, remote editing a-la tramp). However what is already there works way better/faster/more consistent than any other editor IMHO, and I’ve tried neovim with plugins too. I particularly enjoy the ability to traverse the AST rather than text (Alt+l/p/o/i by default, but I have it remapped to Alt+h/j/k/l). Really looking forward to https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/pull/8675, I’ll probably write a couple plugins if this ever lands.

      • sntx@lemm.ee
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        3 days ago

        You can already do so incredibly much by hooking up a few extra LSPs and keybinds (calling external scripts/programs)!

        What I’m personally still missing though:

        • Code Folding
        • More refined subprocess handling, i.e. term-buffer switching or floating term (when excuting gitui via keybind for example)
        • Emacs Org-Mode like context aware styling, for i.e. Bold or Italic text hints from LSP
          • Font changes (restricted through terminal)
          • Different Font/Line sizes for i.e. headings (restricted through terminal)
          • Inline images (sixel!)
        • Dedicated optional client, a-la Neovide with cursor animations (helps orientation with jumps etc.), and to alleviate the previous terminal restrictions
  • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
    10·
    5 days ago

    with the rise of LSP, i feel that ides have become less necessary. get an editor that you like, add an LSP client if there’s not one built-in, then install the server for your language.

  • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
    14·
    5 days ago

    I use PyCharm for work but it’s not FOSS or beginner-friendly. PyCharm does have a free community edition which is awesome if you’re mostly into FOSS for the $0 aspect.

    Codium is fine and technically FOSS although it’s association with Microsoft taints it for anyone who still hates MS from the bad old days. Also it’s an Electron app.

    • Captain Beyond@linkage.ds8.zone
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      4 days ago

      Codium is fine and technically FOSS although it’s association with Microsoft taints it for anyone who still hates MS from the bad old days.

      “New” Microsoft isn’t really any better, and although Codium itself is perfectly fine (Electron notwithstanding) many of Microsoft’s extensions only work with/are only licensed for the official VSCode build and include proprietary parts.