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the idea of putting people before profit feels increasingly radical
What. The. Fuck.
Probably because of the ad corp they bought
Nah it’s not news that their ethos has been fading away for a long time now and that Mozilla just really isn’t what it used to be a decade ago.
This is the Mozilla Foundation. They’re legally a non-profit, so this isn’t supposed to mean that they’re reconsidering their stance. They can’t do that. It’s rather just them saying “shit’s hard, yo”.
The wikimedia foundation as a nice fraction of a billion dollars in stocks in order to not rely on donations
Yes but the for-profit Mozilla corporation will selfishly maintain control of the golden goose to the bitter end, even if they destroy it. They offer no value without Firefox and they know it.
The CEO salary will also get a 30% cut right? Right?
once more, how much does that garbage ceo costs?
$6.9 mil the last time they said. And that was in a year where CEO salary was (on average) cut across all for-profit companies, because even businesses react to market forces sometimes.
The CEO who got paid that much has quit. We don’t yet know what the salary of the new CEO is going to be.
And the blame for Mozilla’s lack of transparency rests entirely on Mozilla’s shoulders.
If you know anything about Mozilla’s finances at all, you know that they always are one to two years out of date. So your response, which I’ve seen before, is ignorant at best, and really disingenuous at worst. I hope for the former.
Not enough that its worth.
That CEO is working for the Mozilla Corporation, these layoffs happened at the Mozilla Foundation. The latter is legally a non-profit, so it would be quite limited how much money they could accept from the Corporation anyways.
The corporation could hire them directly
We’re gonna end up with a Blink monopoly, aren’t we?
My hope is that Mozilla stops working on Firefox and the Linux Foundation creates a new Firefox fork and finances the project. It would be the official Linux browser.
I do not see why you think the Linux Foundation could stomp 500+ devs out of the ground and do a better job. That’s three times the size of the current Linux Foundation. Nevermind that the Linux Foundation is purely non-profit. Paying a living wage to that many devs is pretty much just not going to be possible.
The Linux foundation is still trying to take Servo out of the ground
They are quite successful with Servo. Progress is obviously slow but it always had been. What matters is that progress is happening
When you are trying to compete with another application, speed matters a lot.
Servo isn’t competing at all. Servo is an experiment
Nothing stopping them from forking it now
There is no need to at the moment, that’s stopping them. Like with Redis, there was a need to fork it. My hope is that the Linux Foundation does not see any other way than doing it themselves.
Either you die young or you live long enough to turn into the Blink engine.
I feel bad for the people who were eliminated. The browser has been stagnating for a while now, maybe a smaller team can be more focused on making a better, more modern browser.
The mobile browser is top notch. The desktop browser has been slowly catching up with the basic innovations of other browsers.
They definitely need to find a new source of funding.
They need to stop bloating the web, so that browser development stops taking billion dollar budgets.
Pretty sure, Google is at the forefront of that endeavor. Apple has no interest in keeping up. And Mozilla needs to stay in the talks for whatever Google proposes to ensure the webstandard can be implemented by others.
History questions: which company invented JavaScript?
Netscape. Specifically the homophobe guy that’s now leading the Chromium-based browser Brave.
I’m being a jackass about it, because that was 28 years ago. You can’t say they should stop bloating the web and then bring up an example from before Google even existed.
They need another source of funding, maybe cutting salaries of the Cs would work for one.
I don’t think this is them focussing back on the browser, especially looking at the job listings posted in another comment. It seems to me it’s just a focus on AI, probably in the hope of making money.
Damn, I definitely won’t stop donating, if they’re this short on money, but that was basically my understanding of what they do, primarily advocacy.
Is MDN and the webstandards work also part of the Foundation? It certainly feels like it’d be more non-profit-y work. I guess, they do hold ownership of the Corporation, so they could also just tell the Corporation to deliver that.
But yeah, I’d like some increased messaging of what other work they do, or how much advocacy they can continue to do. Obviously, that’s not an insane number of employees left either way…
I believe MDN and standards partcipation is part of the Corporation. The latter definitely, because implementation experience matters for that. The former also has its own monetisation, and has a lot of content contributed by the Open Web Docs foundation.
