I found a handy site for taking notes, but everything it says about the privacy of this one:

“Anonymous by default, no adverts. We offer a high level of privacy for both writers and readers. You don’t need to create an account to post something. There are no adverts on the entire page and we don’t use any social media scripts. You can rest assured that information about your activity on the site will not be used by advertising companies or social media.”

This is in the “About” section.

There is no information about what information the site collects about the user.

  • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
    85·
    11 months ago

    If the site services the EU and does not have a privacy policy it’s downright illegal according to the GDPR.

    Art. 14 GDPR, “Information to be provided where personal data have not been obtained from the data subject”:

    Where personal data have not been obtained from the data subject, the controller shall provide the data subject with the following information […] the identity and the contact details of the controller […] the purposes of the processing for which the personal data are intended […] where applicable, that the controller intends to transfer personal data to a recipient in a third country or international organisation …

    https://gdpr-info.eu/art-14-gdpr/

    • PermanentlyJetlagged@lemmy.ml
      14·
      11 months ago

      Is it just me or does this not make sense? It says you must declare the purposes of the processing for which personal data are intended, but this is under the section for when no personal data is collected. How does that work?

      • sudneo@lemmy.world
        41·
        11 months ago

        personal data have not been obtained from the data subject

        Reads to me like data that I (data subject) did not provide myself, but that the processor collects. I guess an example could be IP address.

        • Max-P@lemmy.max-p.me
          4·
          11 months ago

          That’s what we’ve been taught at work, and also my general understanding of it.

          You don’t need a policy or a banner if you don’t need to inform and gather consent from the user. It’s just that nearly everyone does, so nearly everyone needs one. And big companies can’t even begin to imagine one would not collect any data at all. So Google and Apple both require a policy to publish an app, even if it just says “we don’t collect anything”.

          It may reassure users however to be explicit that you don’t collect anything, since now people assume the worst about everyone, especially when there’s some form of company involved.

          But if your site is just static HTML, there’s no user accounts and you don’t collect any statistics and have server logs turned off, you’re not collecting or processing any personal data. So you’re good. You can’t be sued for processing data you don’t have.

          Companies also tend to prefer to side with caution: you’re better off doing more than is strictly required than risk a lawsuit. The GDPR is pretty vague, so you might as well have one to cover your ass.

          • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
            1·
            11 months ago

            IP addresses are seen as personal data. So if you’re a sane person who does logging and analyzes the result, you need a privacy policy.

            If you embed external fonts/scripts/images/etc. you also need one.

            • CallumWells@lemmy.mlEnglish
              1·
              10 months ago

              Are they? I would have thought that the IP address of someone accessing a site is public information.

              • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
                2·
                10 months ago

                IP addresses are considered personal data.

                The data subjects are identifiable if they can be directly or indirectly identified, especially by reference to an identifier […]. Since the definition includes “any information,” one must assume that the term “personal data” should be as broadly interpreted as possible. This is also suggested in case law of the European Court of Justice, which also considers less explicit information, [such as] IP addresses.

                https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/personal-data/

                The whole article is a great read, btw.

                “Personal data” (and thus the protection of it and how organizations servicing EU citizens have to handle them) is much, much, much, more than just your name.

                • CallumWells@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  I kinda think that the IP address is public information when you go to a site still. Since it’s needed to get data back to you and you’re requesting to get data back. But maybe I’m just a bit too old and stuck in the thinking of the phone book and such.

        • OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml
          1·
          11 months ago

          More generally any personal data obtained from a third party. E.g. if you’re generating a credit score you might contact someone else with a record of financial transactions.

        • 4am@lemm.ee
          83·
          11 months ago

          Found someone salty that their site didn’t comply and is big angy about having to clean it up and stop being shady 😏

              • CallumWells@lemmy.mlEnglish
                1·
                10 months ago

                To be fair, depending on your interpretation of “shady” I’m pretty sure you can find a lot of laws most people wouldn’t describe someone ignoring to be doing anything shady. ( I think that sentence should make sense)

    • hedgehog@ttrpg.network
      6·
      11 months ago

      That section is only applicable if personal data has been obtained by some means other than from the data subject. If a site doesn’t collect or process any personal information, period, then that section (and the rest of the GDPR) isn’t applicable.