D-word, so you’re saying I can play PS5 from a dang steam deck?
D-word
Dagnabbit?
Defibrillator?
Dingus
Maybe dactyloscopy
Via Chiaki evidently.
Takes minutes to set up, highly recommend it. I use it on my PS4 all the time.
Remote play in the house is excellent with Chiaki. I know it works across the web as well, but I can’t figure it out. It just doesn’t work and I have no idea if it’s the way I set up chiaki, the way I set up port forwarding, the way my router handles port forwarding, or simply the internet connection from which I’m attempting to connect. I wonder if the Portal has these issues, because not having to deal with any of that is actually a pretty solid selling point.
My guess would be that if you’re having trouble with Chiaki, you will probably have trouble PS portal as well, as usually those issues are at the modem level and have to do with your settings.
You have to do additional setup to do Chiaki from outside of your network. With the PS Remote App, they handle everything.
I don’t think either are acceptable local, let alone outside the network, for anything that demands any kind of reaction time, but it’s OK enough for turn based or slower games.
Word my bad!
You might be on a CG-NAT network which makes port forwarding impossible. Some ISPs will disable it if you ask (or give you an ipv6 IP which isn’t affected by the issue).
How can I go about learning what any of this means and how to look for it?
If you go to https://ipinfo.io at home (over wifi or ethernet) and it says your ip is in the
100.64.0.0/10range, then you are on a CG-NAT network.This wikipedia article may be helpful. The short answer is that we are running out of public IPv4 addresses so CG-NAT is used so a bunch of users can essentially share 1 (or a few) public IPs. From the router’s perspective, you have a public IP that is actually a private IP in the 100.64.0.0/10 range.
However, not having a real public IP means you have no way for remote devices to directly access your router, so port forwarding won’t work.
Yup. Works great.
Yes, it’s a pretty popular option.
Been able to all along Xbox as well. Saved my bacon when I ruptured my Achilles tendon.
Hope you’re feeling better. Good to know it’s possible, as I’ve got more cash invested into the PlayStation platform than I probably should have.
Sony’s own PS Remote Play app has always been garbage. Even on PC, on phones, on anything. I never had faith they’d improve it for Portal. Sony has only disappointed me nonstop since 2011. Steam has only continued to win me over time and time again.
Ever since the PS3 they have been a generation behind Xbox for online services and connectivity in their consoles.
PS Portal is a terrible device, but also name another device in the $200 price range you can use to stream PS5 games with good ergonomics and a good display…
E: please read the last 5 words again before suggesting tablets and phones.
You can buy a $15 phone clip to attach your phone to your controller, and enjoy remote play that way.
Staring at a 6" display is not a good time.
There are controller cradles for tablets as well. The best display I have is the 10" 1600p 120Hz display of my tablet.
6" is huge my computer monitor was barely bigger 20 years ago
But i get your point but to save you money homey get you a old Samsung Oled Tablet probably way bigger screen too
Right, because that will be ergonomic and is totally comparable to a brand new device…
It is if you get a tablet with a case that can prop it up and then use a wireless controller. You’re being inflexible, there are options out there other than a portal. My Lenovo tablet was 99 pounds brand new and a case came with it to prop it.
I’m not “being inflexible”, I’m pointing out that those are not comparable options.
I mean I could buy a Origin PC that has a PlayStation 5 built into it and strap it to my back and mount a TV to my waist as I walk around. That’s totally the same thing, right?
You’re right, they aren’t comparable. If you get a tablet you can basically use it as a computer as well as for streaming games within your own house.
Cellphone
50 usd 5 usd phone case gampad thing
I think the Logitech G Cloud would fit in that category, when on sale (otherwise it’s $350 USD, so at that point you might as well get the 64G Deck).
Afaict it’s $250 USD with a promo code now and since it’s basically a tweaked Android ROM, you can stream Game pass, your PS4/PS5 (via PS Play) or Geforce Now and even do some light emulation (up to DC just fine).
Ergonomics and screen are pretty great from what I recall, after testing one a few months ago.I’m seeing it for sale on Amazon for $300 still, and the ergonomics look like crap. PSP has what is widely regarded as the best controller ever made.
That was on Logitech’s website and after adding it to the cart, no idea about Amazon.
It might not look the part, but I’m talking from experience and it was just a notch below the Deck’s ergonomics tbh.
I think that’s debatable, as many still prefer the Xbox controller design and layout, but I’m biased towards the Dual Sense (as well?), sure.
And please, for the love of every other real handheld that came before it, don’t abbreviate it as PSP…Sony certainly are morons about device naming.
It’s not that debatable.
The feature set murders the Xbox controller.
I would debate it. The xbox controller puts the sticks in the thumbs natural resting position, whereas the PS requires some thumb or grip repositioning.
Granted the latest dualsense are the most comfortable, but I always had issues with dualshocks.
Dual Sense also has adaptive triggers which are awesome, and probably the best haptics I’ve felt in a controller.
That’s entirely preference. There are just as many people who prefer the PS’s layout.
There’s no comparison on function.
What function does it have that can’t be compared?
I’m not about to type out the whole name sorry
PSP? Lol what?
Edit: oh… Yeah there’s already a “Sony PSP.”
The PlayStation Portable was the best controller ever? I hope that is a typo because that horrible nubbin position gave me wrist problems for life.
Backbone One PlayStation Edition will make use of your existing phone screen.
I actually have a backbone gathering dust. I think it might have seen more use if I wasn’t using an iPhone mini with a tiny screen and bad battery.
I specifically said “with good ergonomics and a good display”.
Samsung Galaxy Tab A.
Yes because a cheap used tablet is totally comparable to a brand new handheld display with ergonomic controls attached.
Better even. It can be used as a standalone device. ;)
Are there any privacy or security concerns using chiaki?
Nope. It is all local
Holy cow, this is awesome. Gonna set this up later!
Been using Chiaki on my Steam Deck for a while now. Portable Bloodborne was great.
So I just set it up and tested out a few different games and I’m encountering some pretty consistent. Periodic lag spikes where the visuals totally stop and get glitched out, any suggestions? I’m doing 720p 10000
I had to tinker with settings a bit, and don’t recall exactly what I had to do. I remember it being glitchy, and I was able to get rid of it with one of the graphics options. I’m using Chiaki4Deck, which is a fork of Chiaki specifically made for Steam Deck, in case we’re talking about different settings.
One thing that possibly rings a bell is the window behind the game (the Chiaki app where you pick a console) is still open in the background which could cause flashing and glitching. Have you tried running it in Desktop mode?
Also, sometimes it doesn’t connect and the only way to get it to try again is by resetting the PS5. Once it’s connected, it works fine.
So I seriously miss the target audience of PS Portal? Are they only targeting people who want to use this device in their own houses either in the bed or on the sofa? And that’s a pretty steep price for such a useless device.
That fact that it can’t even play direct from the PS+ cloud gaming service shows what a half-baked device this is.
In order for me to be interested it would have to be able to stream games in from my PS5, PS+ cloud gaming, and my PC. Maybe add Xbox GamePass streaming as well.
Realistically it’s going to have to come from a third party if it wants all that, at which point you might as well just have a controller grip for your phone.
Seems like a stupid decision to make remote play from PS5 system agnostic when your own handheld device doesn’t even work with it.
Like, ELI5, what kind of executive decision making strategy is at play to completely undermine your unprofitable portable hardware?
Why compare the Portal to the Deck? The Retroid Pocket 3/3+/4/etc. and Ayn Odin are much more comparable (and better I’d say)
Edit to address the down votes: my point is that the Portal is not an arm processor. Hence why I chose arm based devices instead of the Ally or any number of AYANEO handhelds. I think devices in the same device category matter way more than 1st/3rd party offerings. If that were the case, we could talk about how everyone prefers Chiaki or whatever the 3rd party ps streaming app is to the first party offering, etc.
Quite a price difference between them to be fair.
Honestly the PS Portal seems extremely expensive for a remote play only device. I feel like the Deck is a much better value proposition with it being able to play games on it’s own and work away from your home network.
I agree it is. That said. This isn’t an even match, and they are sold as two different use cases. One is a full on computer, the other is literally just a single purpose thin client “portal.”
You should consider any bells and whistles that come with a 500+ device, like hdr, showing up on a 200 device a friggin miracle bonus.
To be fair, the deck can be a lot cheaper than 500+. Comparing a $350 64GB LCD deck to a $200 PS Portal really favors the Deck. Neither device supports HDR at that price, but the Deck can do so much more than the Portal.
I’m just gonna drop this comment to say this community seems super disappointing. Just a circle jerk. It’s not a competition between your favorite thing and another thing. It’s okay for some people to spend less for something else.
I really hate communities that act this way. it’s so weird. And for what.
Personally I was just really disappointed with the PS Portal pricing, feels priced far too high for what it is. I think stream only devices can be decent, but they need to be priced more competitively.
Shrug, the thing sold out at that price point. It can be “too expensive” and also the right price for the market.
And honestly, a display, an arm chipset, good wifi, Bluetooth, all the dualsense modules. The cost of production adds up.
There have been a lot of armchair experts around this thing whinging about it, but people who bought them are super happy. Why rain on that parade? Just be cool about it.
It’s priced badly but idk if I can call it priced unreasonably because it contains a dualsense controller which is expensive as is.
I’m not a PS Portal customer at any price point and I’m a consistent Sony customer. Maybe if they got it down to the $99-$129 range? It just doesn’t make any sense to me given the options out there.
Honestly the PS Portal seems extremely expensive for a remote play only device.
Compared to what, exactly?
I feel like the Deck is a much better value
It absolutely is. It’s also, at minimum, double the price.
Brand new 64GB Decks are still available for $350.
To be fair that’s the older LCD model, not the OLED the article is discussing, which is 549 minimum
One is a gaming pc, and the other is a controller with a screen that lags doing its one job.
Fully aware.
Kind of the point I was making. It’s a cheaper device for a reason. This is like complaining that a chromebook has no local graphics horsepower. No shit? Why did you buy it expecting that? Oh because you picked the cheapest thing that vaguely resembled the form factor of what you wanted and expected it to do all the things the far more expensive options can?
Neither of these devices are brand gouging, you’re getting the hardware capacity you’re paying for.
Yet Sony’s device main focus should be the screen, since it’s just a portable screen…
The fact that they didn’t even put a WiFi 6 capable card in it shows they don’t give a shit about delivering a good product.
People will still buy it regardless. That’s why they don’t care.
Reviewers: “It lags and is often unplayable”
Gamers: “SIGN ME UP!”
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I feel like the fact that this is downvoted is showing the disconnection that Lemmy has as a hub for tech inclined users, I know many people waiting to buy the portal and while I know it’s kind of a useless device, it works for a lot of people and $200 is at about that sweet spot.
