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  • Depends on what you’re using it for. Fedora’s release ver upgrades are fairly seamless. Just a big dnf update really.

    Meanwhile I have a bunch of servers stuck on CentOS 7 that are going to need to be completely rebuilt by next summer. I’m also limited by them because the pdf generator I use requires a version of libpango that was released in 2019 and EL7 is stuck on the 2018 version.

    I switched from Rocky to Fedora Server because I was sick of running into compatibility issues with dependencies that exist in the Fedora repo and not EL.

    Specifically postgres. One of the projects requires postgis and gdal, which are in the Fedora community repo, but I have to use the official postgres repo on Rocky and the people that maintain those repos are literally incompetent. They have an automated script that generates all of the packages and they can’t even be bothered to double check that the packages are built against the correct version of postgres, so your install will fail because a PG14 package is looking for a dependency that only exists in the PG11, PG12, and PG15 repo.





  • Semicolons are optional in JavaScript unless you are combining multiple statements on a single line, which is generally not something you should be doing anyway.

    I avoid them whenever possible. It encourages people to write poorly formatted code. But then I’m a python dev so I tend to be opinionated when it comes to whitespace.


  • I strongly disagree with your first point. Kids these days are more familiar with ChromeOS than Windows. Google has proven that as long as it has Chrome and a taskbar at the bottom people will be fine with it.

    For long term support I also disagree with #2. The company I work for develops software that goes into both windows and Linux environments. The Windows environments are several orders of magnitude harder to secure and maintain because you never know what bullshit Microsoft is going to pull with their updates.

    It may be easier to find a Windows IT person to maintain the system but it’s going to be significantly more expensive and significantly less reliable than an immutable OS like Fedora silverblue.




  • Endeavor OS solves most of those problems. Out of box experience is fantastic, and the installer is the best I’ve ever used.

    That being said, I still wouldn’t recommend it due to the Arch package maintainers willingness to break userspace.

    You will do a system update and it will break something. Most recent for me was Python packages. I updated my system and suddenly pip stopped working because they decided to follow PEP-668 and force the user to install packages using pacman.

    The rationale given was allowing the user to install packages outside of the distro’s control can potentially break system tools like Fedora’s DNF, which is python based.

    Now, I’ve done this on Fedora, it’s not fun. But you know what else? FEDORA DOESN’T EVEN ENABLE THIS FEATURE YOU FUCKING IMBECILES.


  • I can increase my cellphone plan with the click of a button.

    If I want to decrease it that same button redirects to a live chat where I have to talk to one of their agents.

    Their agents will genuinely give you a better deal, but for some reason can’t change your plan to a lesser one without breaking your contract, causing hundreds of dollars in extra fees.

    The brick and mortar agents can do it in 2 minutes with no hassle. You walk in and say I want this plan, show your id, sign the change request and you’re done.

    I don’t even think they are doing it on purpose. Why would they have a button that connects me to someone they are paying to convince me to give them less money per month? They cut my wife’s bill in half because she is month to month.

    It’s just Hanlons Razor. Supreme incompetence.





  • If Debian works on your hardware and you just want something that works and doesn’t give you issues then yes its a good choice. It will just work happily in the background for years.

    Fedora Server is a great choice if its something you want to continuously tinker with. Each release averages a little over 1 year of support so you’ll want to do a dist upgrade after each new version comes out.

    I’m currently considering switching to it on a couple of production servers I manage because they rely on PostGIS. EL9 and Debian rely on the official postgres repositories rather than shipping their own .deb/rpms and the official postgres repository’s GIS packages are so unreliable I think it would be more stable on Arch. With Fedora server however I can just install postgres and postgis from the official community repo.


  • nathris@lemmy.catolinuxmemes@lemmy.worldI use Debian BTW
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    • Ubuntu deviates from accepted standards too often (Mir, Upstart, Snap) thanks to Canonicals ham fisted attempts to redefine Linux.

    • Arch has a tendency to break due to the maintainers commitment to staying true to upstream. Too often you end up on the Arch wiki looking up how to solve small issues that should have been in the original PKGBUILD

    • Gentoo, not everyone wants to compile everything from source

    • Debian’s commitment to FOSS results in frequent incompatibilities (both SW and HW) out of the box.

    Fedora is the perfect middle ground. It implements the latest technology standards as soon as they are stable (eg, Wayland, Btrfs by default), stays fairly close and true to upstream while maintaining package stability, and overall just works with a large variety of lackages

    Fedora is for people who use Linux as a tool rather than a hobby.


  • I’ve thrown Linux on every laptop I’ve ever owned, and a couple of family members laptops as well and the past 15 years and haven’t encountered 1/10th of the issues they you have.

    Complaining about broken suspend is funny because Microsoft basically killed S3 sleep in favour of the battery sucking S0. If anything it works better in Linux because you won’t open up your laptop to find that Windows Update fucking ran in the background while it was sitting closed in your backpack and rebooted.

    I think your issue might be more of an AMD issue. They have a long history of buggy mobile hardware even on Windows.

    I mean hell I threw Fedora on to my Intel MacBook Pro and the only real annoyance I had was not being able to reliably disable the SPDIF light in the 3.5mm jack.

    I’m currently using the non-linux version of the XPS 13 2-in-1 and my OS experience is actually the opposite of your friends. I can install any Linux ISO without issue, but the standard Win 11 ISO refuses to work because it can’t detect any storage drives.

    As far as daily driving Linux on it, the only things that don’t work are the fingerprint reader and webcam. It’s a bit of a piss off given that non-touchscreen version uses similar spec hardware that does support it but it doesn’t really affect daily use.