Me: Hello niece, what career will you embark on once college is over?

Niece: Marketing.

Me: [audibly] Ah, I see. [inaudibly] Where did our family go wrong???

The olde ones are nice. Not sure about the newer ones. I have two T420s and one T430. The 420 was the last of the chicklet keys I think. Can swap CPU/RAM as well. The 430 has the CPU soldered in like most major brand laptops do meow.