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  • FutileRecipe@lemmy.worldtoAndroid@lemmy.worldWe need LibreWolf of android.
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    1 month ago

    or randos on the internet then?

    I mean isn’t that practically everyone on the Internet that you don’t know personally? Or do you actually know the Firefox and/or Librewolf team, and audit their code as well?

    If no to both…sounds like you are putting some measure of trust into “randos on the Internet.” Which is not abnormal. Trust is required at some point in most processes.


  • FutileRecipe@lemmy.worldtoAndroid@lemmy.worldWe need LibreWolf of android.
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    My thing against Firefox/Librewolf is lack of security…unless it’s improved?

    Avoid Gecko-based browsers like Firefox as they’re currently much more vulnerable to exploitation and inherently add a huge amount of attack surface. Gecko doesn’t have a WebView implementation (GeckoView is not a WebView implementation), so it has to be used alongside the Chromium-based WebView rather than instead of Chromium, which means having the remote attack surface of two separate browser engines instead of only one. Firefox / Gecko also bypass or cripple a fair bit of the upstream and GrapheneOS hardening work for apps. Worst of all, Firefox does not have internal sandboxing on Android. This is despite the fact that Chromium semantic sandbox layer on Android is implemented via the OS isolatedProcess feature, which is a very easy to use boolean property for app service processes to provide strong isolation with only the ability to communicate with the app running them via the standard service API. Even in the desktop version, Firefox’s sandbox is still substantially weaker (especially on Linux) and lacks full support for isolating sites from each other rather than only containing content as a whole. The sandbox has been gradually improving on the desktop but it isn’t happening for their Android browser yet.

    Ref: https://grapheneos.org/usage#web-browsing













  • I don’t even use proprietary apps so most if the “security features” aren’t even useful to me

    So only proprietary apps may have malware? Malware aside, only proprietary apps may have bugs that can be exploited? And all nonproprietary apps are perfectly safe? But seriously, there is so much wrong with that thinking.

    Apps aside, GrapheneOS protects the actual OS and is kept up to date, much quicker than pretty much any other variant.

    It is overly complex for no benefit to me.

    What’s overly complex? Contact and storage scope I mentioned? You don’t have to use it. Separate profiles for work I mentioned? Again, don’t have to use it. GrapheneOS is one of the closest OSes to AOSP that I’ve seen. You could even just install the Play Store (which is in a sandbox by default, with no root, and you don’t have to do anything to specify that), only use the owner profile, and you get all of the security benefits with no extra work. You introducing F-Droid and using all nonproprietary apps is more complex than GrapheneOS out of the box.


  • Graphene sucks the life of android in my humble option.

    What’s not “fun” or lifeless about it? It’s a phone. I use it exactly as I would a normal Pixel, with the exception of having the convenience of Google Wallet.

    Everything is about security with anything else being second.

    Would you rather it be all about fun/having life with everything else being second? That doesn’t sound safe. And I’m still confused about you saying it having no life.

    I will say what I do differently vs a normal Pixel, is I use the storage scopes and lock certain apps to certain folders as well as contact scopes to lock certain apps to only see certain people. I don’t use my phone for work, but if I did, that would be a separate profile/user.


  • our team decided to make them mutually exclusive, therefore, at this moment you will not be able to utilize the Killswitch feature and have access to your LAN

    Yeah, I got the same reason when I asked about that issue with Android (GrapheneOS). I didn’t run into this issue on Windows. I don’t recall Mullvad running into this issue, either.

    ProtonVPN has also been the only known app impacting GrapheneOS shipping a DNS leak fix due to “Proton is doing something weird” that other apps aren’t doing. Proton is also convinced they’re programing their app correct and aren’t open to fixing it…whereas Mullvad did when prompted.

    Lastly…if the Killswitch and LAN access are mutually exclusive, why does Proton let me turn both on and not explain it? You’d think if you turned on the Killswitch, it would grey out the LAN access with a note saying you can’t have both. And if you try to turn on the LAN access with Killswitch on? It should pop up with a notification saying you can’t have both with a yes/no prompt to take you to the Killswitch settings to turn that off if desired.



  • They are expensive

    Sometimes you get what you pay for, and…

    I don’t want to give money to Google

    I get that, but your purchase (the entire Pixel department, to be honest) is a drop in the ocean to their profits. They won’t notice you not buying one at all. You’re handicapping yourself in the mobile security arena (not being able to install GrapheneOS) to take the high ground and not effect a tech giant.

    That aside, if you really don’t want to give Google, buy one from a reseller and not from the Google Store.