On Google if I search “Mens Boots” I immediately see lots of results from shops in Amsterdam and near me selling boots.
When I use DuckDuckGo the results are useless unless I add “Amsterdam” and then it only shows me Amsterdam results, instead of Google which would also show me shops from Germany etc. That has quick delivery times etc.
What are my options? (Non-American would be great)
Been using Qwant for a while now, happy with it.
I’ve been using Kagi for a near a year now and it’s pretty good. Reminds me of old Google
It’s fairly pricey though. I don’t mind some adds, and I can also use a add blocker.
Kagi
Isn’t it a paid service and ran by a Silicon Valley corporation…like Google?
Yeah it’s paid. They have a good rep for privacy
Kagi has been amazing, I’m so disappointed every time I try to search for something on my work computer on Google.
I understand they have gone deep into LLMs, so take that into consideration
CEO: Why would we take your data, you directly fund us so obviously we will only focus on providing the best search experience
CEO: dumps money into AI and a T-shirt factory
Kagi is a fantastic search engine, gets all the critical shit right.
Can’t live without Presearch
Presearch is a community-powered, decentralized search engine that provides better results while protecting your privacy and rewarding you when you search.
Here is a cool comparison chart I’ve found : https://searchengine.party/
Qwant has been decent for me. Try it out and see how it goes
For the moment, I’m using Qwant
Replying to save this for later. I’m about to start on my own selfhosting project next week so I’ll definitely add this to my list
IMHO there is no perfect solution for this, but I switched to Searxng (which can be selfhosted) and Im happy with the results. Please note that Searxng is a Meta Search engine, that basically means its using multiple other search engines with less tracking afaik…
Yea there is no perfect solution, but we shouldn’t be looking for perfection. Every step in the right direction counts
I am not sure why qwant seems to get mentioned so frequently. My experience is that the search results are mediocre at best and they shove ads in your face on every page.
I highly recommend Kagi, I’ve been with them since basically the beginning and they have been fantastic. I do pay for their service, but the value proposition is absolutely there.
I’ve been fucking with kagi. And I like the results it seems more relevant to what I searched for.
Google works the way it does because it has basically unlimited resources. You will never find something that does EVERYTHING Google does, because running Google is like shoveling thousands of dollars into a fire constantly.
You have to choose either convenience or privacy.
I just use ddg and for when i want to search something important, i just use Google(in incognito).
I thought it was agreed Incognito mode does nothing useful. You are still tracked.
Incognito just doesn’t add the history to your browser, the tracking is the same, correct.
Nothing beats Google so you can use European based Startpage just like how DuckDuckGo is based on Microsoft Bing.
It doesn’t have to beat google, it just has to be close enough not to be annoying or not function properly.
Using Startpage still supports google, which is what I want to stop doing as much as possible.
It’s like saying supporting Google by using Brave which is Chromium.
I’ve been using Qwant its French and I’ve been using it for a year, it good and fast and private. Check it out.
Another vote for brave search
Brave Search is the best imo. I’ve been using it for years.