Russia plans to establish an independent Linux development community after the removal of Russian contributors from Linux kernel development.
  • ganymede@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    personally i don’t agree with sanctioning foss communities.

    but fuckit, bring on more forks i say.

    among other benefits, the scifi-type scenario of nations trying to patch eachothers backdoors and slip in new backdoors (and hopefully innovations). could make for an exciting OS space-race type scenario

    • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
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      2 months ago

      personally i don’t agree with sanctioning foss communities.

      Foss communities aren’t being sanctioned. Whole countries are. It’s the same limitation whatever enterprise you’re in.

      If Olympians have to renounce their country to take part in global competition, why do you not think a software developer wouldn’t have to do the same to be involved in a global project?

  • scratchandgame@lemmy.mlTiếng Việt
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    2 months ago

    its quality will not be lower than usa linux, as they will pull latest development but not push back (to the linux list)

  • Evans@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Please don’t…

    Can we organize and force the Linux Foundation and/or OFAC to exclude open source software from these sanctions? Is anyone doing that yet?

    • mihor@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Americans should vote for Trump, he’s the best chance to overturn these ludicrous sanctions.

        • mihor@lemmy.ml
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          2 months ago

          Thanks for name-calling, real classy.

          At least Trump is probably gonna normalize relations with Russia. On the other hand, he’s probably gonna support Israel even more fervently, whereas Harris would do the opposite - escalate the bickering with Russia and colden the relations with Israel. You can’t have it all.

  • uiiiq@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    The fork has no hope of survival. Are you telling me Russia’s Ministry of Digital Development can maintain a project of this size? lol, rofl even.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Why wouldn’t they be able to. Russia has a lot of tech talent, and tends to top programming competitions. Also, if this happened I imagine other countries like China would collaborate as well. China alone has a bigger population than all of the west, and a better education system to boot.

      • merthyr1831@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Disregarding the parent comment, but hosting a soft fork is easy enough but it’ll quickly become a spaghetti mess of local patches that conflict with upstream changes. It’s not like there’s an argument for preserving access to Russia either since the nature of the kernel being hosted across torrent trackers makes it impossible to deny Linux to any one country.

        It seems like the better solution (imo) is to work on a different kernel receptive of these maintainers, so that the companies employing them can still have a kernel that is developed for their use-cases whilst supporting projects that don’t so openly collaborate with hostile states.

    • 0x0@programming.dev
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      2 months ago

      No, but they can host the infrastructure so that excluded developers (the ones that just so happen to be Russian) along with whomever will want (BRICS developers for instance) can surely contribute.

    • uiiiq@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      It doesn’t. Russians are still free to use and contribute to Linux development. Just a few people lost their maintainer rights.

      • hedgehog@ttrpg.network
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        2 months ago

        Right? It’s weird how so many people upset about the situation in this thread are incapable of explaining why it’s a problem without lying.

        Like, I get that it sucks to be removed as a maintainer because of reasons outside your control. But being, or continuing to be, a maintainer of a project isn’t a right that’s integral to that project being free.

        • uiiiq@lemm.ee
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          2 months ago

          I am doubtful about the agency of the commenters here. Does not seem natural, more like a group of bots / paid russian trolls.

  • merthyr1831@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Probably better for BRICS countries to consider contributing to something different.

    Realistically there’s no feasible way for the US to block access to use the kernel, and even a soft fork of it will be laughably easy for glowies to exploit. There are a bunch of promising kernels that could be well suited for China and Russia’s push towards RISC and ARM independence, whereas in Linux they’d be tasked with maintaining drivers and other systems that are a massive security vulnerability if you don’t have total control over them.

    I’d honestly even consider it a good idea for Russia to get the FSF to fight this considering it’s a blatant violation of the GPL. Even if the president can just say whatever they like, at least you can make it embarrassing and expensive for the chauvinists gloating at the labour they exploited for years.