Most issues stand, and fuck Windows generally, but honestly I don’t quite understand the issue with dropping support for older versions of Windows. Linux distros also do this, so much software does this, it’s just not practical or reasonable to manage all your versions of your software forever.
As others have mentioned, the primary issue here are the hardware requirements for Windows 11. The result are millions of PCs (I guess, definitely a lot though) that are fully functional from a technical point of view, but cannot run Windows 11 and should not run any other Windows due to the security implications of running unpatched software.
And as I’ve replied to many others, that’s a criticism of 11 itself and perfectly understandable. It’s not a reason to seethe at end of lifing. There’s features of software introduced that I don’t like in plenty of things including linux, but I’m not going to get mad that the version I like better doesn’t get supported forever
The reason end of support keeps getting brought up is because the only remaining supported version is currently in a trash state and officially doesn’t support a LOT of hardware still in use.
Windows 7 was still supported for 5 years after 10 came out. Windows 8 didn’t go end of support until last year, 8 years after 10 launched. And keeping in mind that you could have upgraded a machine originally on xp to windows 10, it is hard to not feel like they are doing the entire industry dirty killing support just 4 years after the new os launched, while they are still bogging it down with newer and shittier features like its in beta or something.
I don’t think the issue is dropping support, but the ridiculous requirements to upgrade to Win11, plus the fact that more recent Windows have serious enshittification that means users don’t want to upgrade in the first place.
The bottom of the meme is explicitly calling it out. Those issues are valid, but there’s this shift in blame to the concept of support cycles in general.
I don’t think the bottom of the meme suggests that dropping support for old versions is inherently bad. It’s part of a larger image; in combination with the other screenshots it suggests people being forced to have Recall/other Win11 enshittification.
The difference is that each Windows upgrade is objectively worse.
Also, even if it wasn’t, a large number of the people who use Windows don’t continue to do so because they really loved Windows, it’s because they’ve always used Windows and don’t want anything to ever change.
So each EoL kicks their asses off their ledge and they have to make the biggest fuss about it, because that is just what using a computer is for them.
It’s just a mentality thing, and not something they’ll readily put into words because it’s clearly futile and churlish.
The difference is that the Linux distros won’t force the user to upgrade with annoying popups or similar. The difference is that the newer versions of Linux distros won’t have hardware requirements that will force the user to buy a new Pc altogether and contributing to e-waste.
Yeah, that’s how time works. Yes they’re pushing a move and 11 sucks but end of support is not like that any more than Ubuntu 12.04 is, and that’s been around even longer.
Most issues stand, and fuck Windows generally, but honestly I don’t quite understand the issue with dropping support for older versions of Windows. Linux distros also do this, so much software does this, it’s just not practical or reasonable to manage all your versions of your software forever.
As others have mentioned, the primary issue here are the hardware requirements for Windows 11. The result are millions of PCs (I guess, definitely a lot though) that are fully functional from a technical point of view, but cannot run Windows 11 and should not run any other Windows due to the security implications of running unpatched software.
And as I’ve replied to many others, that’s a criticism of 11 itself and perfectly understandable. It’s not a reason to seethe at end of lifing. There’s features of software introduced that I don’t like in plenty of things including linux, but I’m not going to get mad that the version I like better doesn’t get supported forever
The reason end of support keeps getting brought up is because the only remaining supported version is currently in a trash state and officially doesn’t support a LOT of hardware still in use.
Windows 7 was still supported for 5 years after 10 came out. Windows 8 didn’t go end of support until last year, 8 years after 10 launched. And keeping in mind that you could have upgraded a machine originally on xp to windows 10, it is hard to not feel like they are doing the entire industry dirty killing support just 4 years after the new os launched, while they are still bogging it down with newer and shittier features like its in beta or something.
I don’t think the issue is dropping support, but the ridiculous requirements to upgrade to Win11, plus the fact that more recent Windows have serious enshittification that means users don’t want to upgrade in the first place.
The bottom of the meme is explicitly calling it out. Those issues are valid, but there’s this shift in blame to the concept of support cycles in general.
I don’t think the bottom of the meme suggests that dropping support for old versions is inherently bad. It’s part of a larger image; in combination with the other screenshots it suggests people being forced to have Recall/other Win11 enshittification.
The difference is that each Windows upgrade is objectively worse.
Also, even if it wasn’t, a large number of the people who use Windows don’t continue to do so because they really loved Windows, it’s because they’ve always used Windows and don’t want anything to ever change.
So each EoL kicks their asses off their ledge and they have to make the biggest fuss about it, because that is just what using a computer is for them.
It’s just a mentality thing, and not something they’ll readily put into words because it’s clearly futile and churlish.
The difference is that the Linux distros won’t force the user to upgrade with annoying popups or similar. The difference is that the newer versions of Linux distros won’t have hardware requirements that will force the user to buy a new Pc altogether and contributing to e-waste.
The newer versions may be bad, but criticizing them for those bad features makes more sense than demonizing the concept of support cycles
Windows 10 has been out a long time. Good luck getting people to move. They are dead set in there ways.
It also doesn’t help that Windows 11 has a terrible reputation
Yeah, that’s how time works. Yes they’re pushing a move and 11 sucks but end of support is not like that any more than Ubuntu 12.04 is, and that’s been around even longer.
Ubuntu has been end of life for quite some time.