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The form factor is why this thing is cool though. I know a handful of tournament organizers who love how much better these things have gotten. (Also, this is using about a tenth of the energy that your ATX build will likely use.)
What’s cool about spending ridiculous amounts of money on needlessly small products?
$550 is ridiculous? You’re not getting much more power in an ATX build if you’re only filling a 1080p display anyway.
Like Minesweeper tournaments?
Skullgirls, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core +R, basically anything retro and emulated, Puyo Puyo. Take your pick. This thing can run Street Fighter 6, and let me tell you how many problems there are with running it on a PS5, even if it outputs a better image…Sony really made things harder for everyone.
Because it’s doing a tenth as much work.
Exactly! Now you’re getting it!
And also, most game-playing time worldwide is spent on games that are over ten years old and don’t need a lot of power. If you want the form factor more than power that you don’t need, you may as well lower your energy bill and the amount of space this thing takes up in your home.
You’re not getting much more power in an ATX build if you’re only filling a 1080p display anyway.
Absolutely not correct.
Skullgirls, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core +R…
All of which you can run on an ATX…?
And also, most game-playing time worldwide is spent on games that are over ten years old and don’t need a lot of power.
I don’t think you’re getting it. If that’s what you want you can get a Steam Deck for $350 that does that, only it’s portable and has a display and controllers…Same goes for a laptop. Or you could just buy an ATX that can also run more demanding games. This is not complicated. There are a plethora of better alternatives.
I have a mini-PC from Minisforum (not this one) dedicated as a media computer in my living room. It can fit nicely inside the TV bench, which a regular sized computer wouldn’t do. I like that I can play games like Horizon: Zero Dawn on it without any issue. I love it, and I gave about 800 USD for it.
I am planning getting a high-end rig for my office later (next year maybe?), and then I of course will not consider a mini-PC.
I found ITX did, it did restrict my options however with my Ryzen 5 and RX6650 XT I can play everything at full detail and high resolutions. Linux is awesome with AMD hardware.
That’s probably true. However, I’m sure there are people out there who have very limited space and do not need that extra power for the games ey play.
Given the world these last few years, there have been many people who have been forced to downsize and get or become room mates or live in an RV. This doesn’t necessarily mean a person can’t enjoy a little downtime. The primary point is that every inch counts. Or so, she says.
You can buy an ATX form factor and get double the power for the same money. There’s no sense in using mobile processors in desktop PCs.
The form factor is why this thing is cool though. I know a handful of tournament organizers who love how much better these things have gotten. (Also, this is using about a tenth of the energy that your ATX build will likely use.)
Because it’s doing a tenth as much work.
Why do you carry a smartphone around? Surely you could get more computing power per dollar if you just carried an ATX board around with you.
Uhhhh because it would be too big to fit in my pocket and it doesn’t have a display, and because it doesn’t do the things a smartphone does? 🤷
You don’t seem to understand that this is not a mobile device. It’s not a laptop. It doesn’t have peripherals or a display or anything…
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$550 is ridiculous? You’re not getting much more power in an ATX build if you’re only filling a 1080p display anyway.
Skullgirls, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core +R, basically anything retro and emulated, Puyo Puyo. Take your pick. This thing can run Street Fighter 6, and let me tell you how many problems there are with running it on a PS5, even if it outputs a better image…Sony really made things harder for everyone.
Exactly! Now you’re getting it!
And also, most game-playing time worldwide is spent on games that are over ten years old and don’t need a lot of power. If you want the form factor more than power that you don’t need, you may as well lower your energy bill and the amount of space this thing takes up in your home.
Absolutely not correct.
All of which you can run on an ATX…?
I don’t think you’re getting it. If that’s what you want you can get a Steam Deck for $350 that does that, only it’s portable and has a display and controllers…Same goes for a laptop. Or you could just buy an ATX that can also run more demanding games. This is not complicated. There are a plethora of better alternatives.
Feel free to price out the build that beats these things by a wide margin.
Try carrying around a dozen ATX machines while I carry around a dozen of these. You’ll see why TOs prefer the smaller, lighter machine.
It sure isn’t.
Strap it to the back of a VR headset or on your hip to get on the go “cordless” linux VR
I have a mini-PC from Minisforum (not this one) dedicated as a media computer in my living room. It can fit nicely inside the TV bench, which a regular sized computer wouldn’t do. I like that I can play games like Horizon: Zero Dawn on it without any issue. I love it, and I gave about 800 USD for it.
I am planning getting a high-end rig for my office later (next year maybe?), and then I of course will not consider a mini-PC.
I found ITX did, it did restrict my options however with my Ryzen 5 and RX6650 XT I can play everything at full detail and high resolutions. Linux is awesome with AMD hardware.
That’s probably true. However, I’m sure there are people out there who have very limited space and do not need that extra power for the games ey play.
Given the world these last few years, there have been many people who have been forced to downsize and get or become room mates or live in an RV. This doesn’t necessarily mean a person can’t enjoy a little downtime. The primary point is that every inch counts. Or so, she says.
Then they can spend less money on a less powerful ATX system. I don’t understand where the confusion is coming from.
Please re-read my post. I said multiple times that a small form factor is crucial in some situations.
ATX = full desktop form factor Mini-ITX = smaller OP video = compact
It’s not always about money. It’s not always about raw power either.
Why ATX when you can go MiniITX?
I do have an Ryzen 7 5700G in my DeskMini A300. But had to cut a hole in the case for the cooler.
For the same reason. You get the Mini-tax.