• Titou@feddit.de
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    7 months ago

    The terminal is not an accessory like on Windows, it’s apart of the daily Linux experience

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      7 months ago

      It shouldn’t be though. A command line interface is not user friendly for entry-level users, and until Linux UX designers realise this, Linux will never gain a greater market share. And we have seen this with Ubuntu, Mint, and other “user friendly” distros gaining popularity. I’m not saying that we should necessarily aim for broad-scale adoption of Linux as an end in itself, but more users means more support for Linux which means a better experience for all.

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        7 months ago

        Linux was never meant to be “user-friendly”, Windows and Linux are 2 differents things, but i know this fact is hard to accept tho.

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      If Linux wants to ever have adoption outside tech people then it can’t be. If a normide has to open up a terminal then that’s already one less Linux user.

      I have used Linux for my main PC for a very long time but I have also worked in tech support and your average user will never ever use an OS where using the terminal is mandatory.

      I my opinion there should be some hobbyist distros where the terminal is your daily experience like Arch or Gentoo but the main focus should be accessibility for the average user if adoptability is a goal.

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        7 months ago

        If you don’t like using the Terminal use Mint, but even this one require some basics terminal skills that everybody could learn fast. Linux is made this way.

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          Oh, there are tons of distros where you don’t need to use the terminal for anything, even Manjaro, an arch based distro, doesn’t need you to ever open the terminal. I was just saying that if adoption is the goal then using the terminal can’t be a requirement for a normal user experience.

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            7 months ago

            Wrong example, Manjaro is probably the less stables distro i’ve tried, and thoses issues seems to be common when you look at the forum

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              7 months ago

              What I mean is that using the terminal isn’t mandatory in Manjaro while Arch and Arch based distros all require it. So for that it’s an excellent example.

              As for stability it’s a bit more stable than Arch itself from my experience but I still has issues. The most stable distro I have used was Pop OS, I didn’t have a single issue there for like 3 years straight, I only switched because of a hardware change and Pop OS’s Mesa version was unstable on the new hardware.

              My central point is still that you will never in a million years get the average computer user to use a terminal.

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                7 months ago

                you will never in a million years get the average computer user to use a terminal.

                We used to back in the 20th century, when computer didn’t had GUI

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                    7 months ago

                    Yep as you said not everybody is made to use a computer, but everybody can learn how to with a minimum of will

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      7 months ago

      If more casual PC users got on to it, i wouldn’t call it a daily experience. Yeah you need to use it some times but once everyone is set, you dont really need to mess with it

      I switched to Mint a few months ago and to be fair I have only messed with it a couple of times mainly just after the initial installation