I am - in the UK - and I think that it should be opt out rather than opt in.
It is, they changed it a while back.
I’d go so far as to say there should be no choice available to opt out
I think the vast majority of people who, even if they have some discomfort around the idea, would not care enough to opt out. The only effect of not allowing opt out, I think, would be to cause considerable distress to those who do care a lot about not donating. I don’t agree with their stance but I don’t think they should be forced to donate, especially if we can get enough organs just from making it opt out instead of opt in
Wtf? The state doesn’t own our bodies.
Neither do you, once you’re dead.
How does it matter though once we’re dead? It’s only gonna help others in need
Judging by this comment thread I’m not the only one who’s like “you can have them, but I don’t know if you’re going to want them”
There’s some of us that probably have perfectly good organs, but due to various blood born viruses we can’t donate even though we squashed the buggers with new medications.
Healthcare in the US is run for profit. From 2020 estimates, they charge $1.6 million for a heart transplant. $1.3 million to transplant a pair of lungs, $880 thousand for a liver, and $440 thousand for a kidney. This is what for profit hospitals charge patients while giving your next of kin nothing for the organs that made it possible.
They don’t pay you for your organs. They will still bill your estate for any care other than the organ removal despite your generosity.
I would happily be an organ donor in a country with a non-profit healthcare system. But because of how heathcare is run in this country, I would rather my organs be left to rot.
I agree it’s horrible, but also I don’t see it as a large enough reason to not donate. The person receiving the organs is probably not the cause of this. It’s like not working because your labor mostly goes to the elites. It’s not a great plan, even if it does feel good.
Thankfully it’s opt-out in Slovakia, so yes.
I’ll be dead. Do whatever with my body. Take the organs, fuck it, feed it to animals, compost it, use it as shooting target, turn me into soap, I won’t care. I literally won’t be able to care. Why even decline?
I would buy your soap
id personally be ok if people didn’t use my dead body as a shooting target. soap would be pretty nice tho.
Fuck it?
Woa
- of course.
- i’ll be dead and won’t need them while others might. how selfish of me not to give them over
Twin.
I wish I could properly state the right of first sale he has, given it’s his DNA (well, he has mine, anyway).
Fun fact: organs donated between perfect twins have no short- or long-term rejection issues. So unlike a regular donation that prolongs life for a decade or two, if he can drug me and steal my kidneys in sleazy Mexican motel, it’s a permanent fix.
Hell, when I go, maybe he’ll take a spare kidney or pancreas or something, and just, you know, hook them up. Totally fine with me.
Imagine taking everything. Splice both kidneys in there and get that ultra pure blood. Climb Mount Everest with no supplemental oxygen using a second set of lungs. Four nuts.
If I had a twin, he’d have to watch his back
That went unexpectedly dark.
I thought it was sweet
Why not both?
Darksweet. New fiction genre just dropped
Actually, from experience, this is how I would describe the humour of queer people I know.
Yes I am registered, because I ride motorcycles and I won’t need my organs if I’m dead.
No.
My mom got double brain aneurism. Had her head cut open to put clamps on the leaking arteries.
Slipped into a coma, few days later doctor came in to convince us for prepping her for organ donor, dad said it was too early.
Another few days later doctors came in being really rude that all she was good for was organ donor. Had a heated conversation with my dad who got tired and said “fck off doctors”.
Few days later she woke up. After revalidation she has a healthy life, this was 37yrs ago, she still lives, she is 71.
My dad told my awake mum and since I was underaged opted me out for organ donor. Needles to say, I am reluctant to opt myself back in.
Optional read: aftermath of the aneurism is that the part of the brain to process visual data was damaged. Other parts of her brain took that role but is not as effective. Her depth perception any further that 10m is gone. She has no vertical peripheral processing, so she has to tilt her head up or down to recognize what she noticed i’ her peripheral, one cannot imagine this seeing something but unable to recognize until you point your head at it :) in the end, very good outcome.
Damn that’s double fucked. What a disappointing story. I’ve still got myself down for organ donation because it’s more likely to be done in good will than not, but that’s a very sad story.
Do people pay for organ transplants where you are? I wonder if it’s not necessarily altruism but money that is pushing the doctor’s hand to jump the gun.
No people do not pay, it is a national waiting list of first come first go. I live in Belgium, mom’s doctors were from France (specialists). We are supposed to be at the top of free and good health care. So this did not happen in some back lawsless country. (don’t mean this patronizing)
That’s like donating to wikipedia, you think you’re doing a good thing but they reveal pretty quickly how big of a mistake that actually was.
Why is that?
They require you give them an email and then once you do they spam it relentlessly.
Maybe they’ve changed because I donate and also contribute as an editor, and checking my email, I’ve only received one email* from them all year, and that was on January 6th titled “A record of your support for Wikipedia” from the Wikimedia Foundation, and it was a thanks and a tax receipt.
Maybe there’s a consent checkbox somewhere that I don’t remember unchecking.
*not counting notifications received in my role as contributor.
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I’ve been registered for a while now. I really don’t see a good reason not to, they only take 'em if I’m dead and what good are they to me then? Better going to someone in need.
Exactly this… Something that, at the moment of donation, literally means less than zero to you, could literally be a new lease in life for someone else
I like the system in Singapore. Organ donation is mandatory, though you can complete a form to opt out. If you’re on the opt-out register, you have a lower priority to receive organ transplants. Fair is fair.
I feel like Singapore should be the gold standard of how to do most things that don’t involve the justice system or surveillance. They seem to do most things right. Or maybe I’m just getting a golden picture? Lol
They pay their government leaders really well, which I think is kind of interesting.
This is often seen as a positive measure as well, because it reduces the risk of bribery and other sorts of corruption. One wouldn’t risk an already great income for a chance to get a little extra.
I think there are examples of it working, and examples of it not. Singapore’s system works as intended, but here’s a list of yearly salaries for high-paid heads of state >$500,000 USD (sources from Wikipedia). Draw your own conclusions.
- Cameroon President: $620,000
- Denmark Queen: $11,000,000
- Hong Kong Chief Executive: $568,000
- Japan Emperor: $3,000,000
- Jordan King: $848,000
- Kuwait Emir: $165,000,000
- Luxembourg Grand Duke: $12,000,000
- Norway King: $33,000,000
- Oman Sultan: $7,000,000 (could be a very old number)
- Qatar Emir: $33,000,000
- Saudi Arabia King: $9,600,000,000 ($9.6 billion)
- Singapore President: $1,400,000
- Singapore Prime Minister: $1,600,000
- Switzerland President: $507,000
- Syria President: $576,000
- Tonga King $2,100,000
- United Arab Emirates President: $4,600,000,000 ($4.6 billion)
Throwing this post out there for a bit of visibility and discussion.
For me, I just registered 5 minutes ago. Idgaf what they use my body for, as long as someone learns something it’s a net positive at no expense to me.
So if a necrophiliac uses your dead body to “learn better techniques” you’re cool with it?
As the great Frank Reynolds once said “Fill me up with cream, turn me into a cannoli, make a stew out of my ass. What’s the big deal? Bang me, eat me, grind me up into little pieces, throw me in the river. Who gives a shit? Ya dead, ya dead.”
Frank is truly a poet.
Shame I won’t be around to share in the experience
Techniques to be a better lover? 🤔 For who?
Yep. Pessimistic about anything still being useful at this point, but hoping I am wrong.
There are also cadaver farms where they study how bodies decompose in different conditions to help with forensic science.
Yes I am. As for why, my organs will save peoples lives,
I was already a donor before my sister died but it really solidified my stance when she saved three people’s lives with her kidneys and liver. They needed it more than the crematorium needed them.
In Austria you have to register to NOT be an organ donor. So we have about 99% donors (after brain death). I am a donor too, as I neither care about my body once I am dead nor bother to register for anything.
Yes, definitely.
I received a live donor kidney transplant over a decade ago, and because of that, my quality of life drastically improved, and I lived long enough to meet my kid and my nieces and nephews.
I’ve got complex medical issues, so my organs might not be any good, but they’re going to be available when I’m gone.
