Today most Invidious instances are experiencing very harsh ip address rate limiting, it is becoming very very hard to watch yt videos through

  • ProfessorYakkington@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    As much as I like the privacy frontends I think ‘we’ have to move to alternative platforms sooner than later and pull the bandaid vs. continuing to indirectly be dependent on google as the base platform.

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      8 months ago

      Content creators won’t follow because there isn’t any monetary incentive to do so. I have been regularly checking out Peertube for 4 years now and it is mostly a backup option for those that one day YouTube might delete their channel.

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        8 months ago

        Peertube needs a quick and easy way for people to donate:

        • tip button (fixed amount with one click)
        • donation button (customisable amount)
        • subscription option:
          • fixed amount per subbed channel
          • fixed amount split across subbed channels
          • customised amount per subbed channel
          • dynamic amount based on viewing time
          • mix of all the above

        No ads needed.

        CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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        8 months ago

        Content creators won’t follow because there isn’t any monetary incentive to do so

        Look up Nebula

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          8 months ago

          Does nebula work for small YouTubers? I imagine it would be extremely hard for a small youtuber to get accepted into a platform like that.

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            8 months ago

            My understanding is this: The model of Nebula is basically like a co-op. Everyone gets paid according to the views they get. And the higher Nebula’s total monthly revenue, the more each view is worth.

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        8 months ago

        Production quality will drop, sure. But how youtube spent years in the beginning was from just people wanting to help, people wanting to share stuff, and people wanting some attention, and there’s still massive amounts of those people making videos. A lot more than the people just after hoping to get paid. Then, of course, even most of the people getting paid would do just fine. They’d just operate like Gamers Nexus and actually speak their ads and sell some merchandise. “This video is brought to you by …”

        Platform paying you or not, there’s still a lot of money to be made if you get popular.

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          8 months ago

          As far as I know the majority of YouTubers revenue still comes from youtube ads and not sponsorships.

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        8 months ago

        Yeah I 100% understand and to a large extent agree with this. I think money should be involved , creators should get paid. I don’t think peertube has become “the answer” yet and there is some combination of market level event and technology/feature set that needs to be in place to create enough moment for people to move off YouTube. It will happen eventually ( I think ) but what exist today isn’t enough of a pull to overcome the momentum YouTube has but that doesn’t mean that “we” should give up.

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      8 months ago

      The problem is the next place is a moving target. Enshitification is inevitable, the drive for money will eventually corrupt any good thing we make.

      What we need is a platform owned by a public trust or a worker co-op made up of all the streamers. Hopefully roll out some micro direct payment system so you can give the content creators a bigger portion of the donations.

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        8 months ago

        The problem I see with that is that the large streamers who make the platform will most likely hit enshitification in how they run it at some point. I could easily see them getting either power hungry or greedy and rigging the rules to set things in their favor over everyone else.

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      8 months ago

      Unfortunately, video is the most intensive content to host and serve. That’s why these front ends exist, to leverage Google’s storage and bandwidth

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      8 months ago

      I want Invidious and Piped to start allowing people to host content just on the third party frontends.