I think you give Manjaro a little too much credit here. Not that I want to hate on it, but Ubuntu is much less closely related to Debian than Manjaro is to Arch.
Yeah, my point was more that both Manjaro and Ubuntu are systematically mismanaged derivatives of brilliant upstream distros with regular blunders in their development process, but with inexplicably large communities.
More like Ubuntu is to Debian what Manjaro is to Arch. And then Linux Mint takes the nice stuff from Ubuntu but does away with the bullshit.
I think you give Manjaro a little too much credit here. Not that I want to hate on it, but Ubuntu is much less closely related to Debian than Manjaro is to Arch.
Yeah, my point was more that both Manjaro and Ubuntu are systematically mismanaged derivatives of brilliant upstream distros with regular blunders in their development process, but with inexplicably large communities.