You were just lucky. For some of us ut was just about having the wrong hardware at the wrong time.
Not complaining, I knew the risks going in and still love my distro, but arch updates totally can brick a PC with no PEBCAK involved. It does happen. :3
Arch breaking grub has happened to me twice. Second time I couldn’t even recover the install.
You learn a lot of good practices by using arch, eg a separate home partitjon, git repositories for your config files, maintaining a clean package tree etc. Installing Arch is also really useful for noobs like me to learn some Linux basics.
A grub breaking thingy happened to me too.
I was saved by having multiboot, with every OS having their own GRUB version installed. (just selected one using the motherboard’s interface)
The problem occurred when, after pacman -Syu, I read notes in the output, one of which hinted I would want to update GRUB and went - “Sure, I’ll try the new GRUB update” and ran GRUB update.
When it didn’t startup after a restart, I just used the debian’s GRUB to login to the OS in question, downgraded GRUB, reinstalled GRUB and then ran pacman -Syu again.
I feel like mine wasn’t the problem instance that goes on around the web, mostly because:
None of the mentioned fixes worked in my case.
I feel like people won’t go out of their way to update GRUB most of the time.
I have not experienced it but half of the arch users on reddit seem to have experienced it. Also it’s not a continuous problem but rather a problem with a certain arch and grub version. However the fact it happened once (to many people) means it can happen a second time
@Titou@Nisaea Well, in my case it once broke due to a conflict between pahole and nvidia that caused errors. Games would crash every now and then. I was going crazy until I found that the update broke nvidia :}
@Titou proprietary drivers, dkms version.
Official repos.
Both my friend and I experienced this, a few minutes later pahole was reverted to previous version on the repos and the update was delayed until fixes were made.
I migrated from nvidia to amd last summer and no issues since then ( a few crashes in Minecraft, its the only game capable of crashing the GPU, dont know why or how ).
You were just lucky. For some of us ut was just about having the wrong hardware at the wrong time.
Not complaining, I knew the risks going in and still love my distro, but arch updates totally can brick a PC with no PEBCAK involved. It does happen. :3
Arch dosn’t break by itself, i’ve used bunch of Arch installations and every time it broke it was because of bad manipulation, not pacman -syu
Arch DEFINITELY breaks itself. See the whole “arch update broke grub” dilemma
Have you tried it or are you just spreading misinformation ?
Arch breaking grub has happened to me twice. Second time I couldn’t even recover the install.
You learn a lot of good practices by using arch, eg a separate home partitjon, git repositories for your config files, maintaining a clean package tree etc. Installing Arch is also really useful for noobs like me to learn some Linux basics.
I use Fedora, btw.
I was among one of the grub fiasco victims. Thank goodness they rolled it back pretty fast and I knew how to chroot.
A grub breaking thingy happened to me too.
I was saved by having multiboot, with every OS having their own GRUB version installed. (just selected one using the motherboard’s interface)
The problem occurred when, after
pacman -Syu, I read notes in the output, one of which hinted I would want to update GRUB and went - “Sure, I’ll try the new GRUB update” and ran GRUB update.When it didn’t startup after a restart, I just used the debian’s GRUB to login to the OS in question, downgraded GRUB, reinstalled GRUB and then ran
pacman -Syuagain.I feel like mine wasn’t the problem instance that goes on around the web, mostly because:
I have not experienced it but half of the arch users on reddit seem to have experienced it. Also it’s not a continuous problem but rather a problem with a certain arch and grub version. However the fact it happened once (to many people) means it can happen a second time
@Titou @Nisaea Well, in my case it once broke due to a conflict between pahole and nvidia that caused errors. Games would crash every now and then. I was going crazy until I found that the update broke nvidia :}
How did you installed it ? Official arch repo or self compiled ? And what nvidia drivers are you using ? Nouveau or proprietary one ?
@Titou proprietary drivers, dkms version.
Official repos.
Both my friend and I experienced this, a few minutes later pahole was reverted to previous version on the repos and the update was delayed until fixes were made.
I migrated from nvidia to amd last summer and no issues since then ( a few crashes in Minecraft, its the only game capable of crashing the GPU, dont know why or how ).
Conflict issues is not arch-exclusive(happenned to me on debian sid months ago) but glad to heard you switched to amd
That’s anecdotal evidence but good for you!