An Xbox player was given a year-long ban for recording nude scenes in Baldur’s Gate 3.

Any clips you record on your Xbox are uploaded to Microsoft’s servers by default and may be automatically flagged as explicit content, as /u/Daddy-Vegas on Reddit found out when he automatically received a combined 390 day (4+21+365) suspension from Xbox Live for three clips he recorded.

His first appeal was apparently rejected, but subsequent appeals led to his ban being lifted after the gaming press picked up the story.

  • carl_dungeon@lemmy.world
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    That’s dumb as shit, why does Microsoft even allow mature games on their platform if their platform doesn’t allow mature content. Sure, record blood and guts, but dont show a nipple or a penis unless it’s exploding in a shower of gore!!! What a fucking disgusting standard we have that gore and violence are celebrated but anything sexual, even simple nudity is some kind of felony offense.

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      Still gets me that in GTA:San Andreas they had hours and hours of non-stop killing and gore - but it was a a low-poly blurred sex scene that was only available if you manually cracked the game files that made it go down in infamy.

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        9 months ago

        one reporter straight up lied and said the hot coffee mod was a multiplayer game where whoever rapes the most people wins

        its not multiplayer, and all sex is consensual. what a bonehead

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        The pearl clutching “think of the CHILDREN” in the media was ridiculous, like you said it is a thoroughly violent and gory game. It was a legitimate legal issue for Take2, Rockstar, and the ERSB however. The ESRB is a voluntary ratings organization like the MPAA, who work with publishers and retailers to provide consumers with accurate info.

        Rockstar lied on the ESRB paperwork and shipped the CD with content that wasn’t disclosed. Irregardless if it required a crack or not, that is what was delivered, and that was a big deal. Huge breach of contract by Rockstar and/or Take2, and loss of trust from retailers towards ESRB ratings.

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          You can literally hire hookers, fuck them, then beat them to death and take your money back. But showing some skin is the issue? What an odd society we have.

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            When I used to work at a video game store, I used to try and dissuade parents from buying their 10 year old GTA 3/VC.

            “So you can just walk down the street and shoot a random person, then when the cops show up, you can just shoot all of them as well.”

            Oh, well they probably see worse things on TV!

            “Uh huh… you can also pick up a hooker, drive to a secluded area, have sex with them, pay them, and then run them over when they leave to get your money back.”

            Wait, it also has sex?!

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        I think it’s because violence is commonplace in everyday life, a part of human nature, from wars to gin violence but icky weird sex stuff is not.

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          Wouldn’t it be the opposite? I’d think most people are more likely to have had sex than having killed a person. Maybe it’s because they think sexual content might actually lead kids to want to have sex.

          Nevermind that these games are not rated for children to begin with, so who is buying it for them?

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          It is depressing we now live in a world where we are not allowed to drink our gin in peace.

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      As perplexing as the thought of “blood and gore good, nudity bad” is, legally I can see why Microsoft would take the heavy-handed approach.

      If the dude in the article were to, say, share those scenes with somebody under 18 (which iirc is illegal since you’re distributing pornographic material to a minor), it’s probably not crazy of a stretch to say that Microsoft is legally liable for that happening on their platform. Easier to just do a carpet ban all-around to avoid it in the first place.

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        In which case the ban should have happened upon sharing not recording. I mean if it isn’t clear that the records you make of singleplayer offline games are published online, then banning someone for what they record feels more like moral policing than anything else tbh.

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      You don’t really own a console. Just look what happened to Sony owners and the content they paid hard earned money for on their consoles. Microsoft and Nintendo are not outliers here. The PCMR “weirdness” the guy above was complaining about is also not walled off from this bullshit. Thanks to Microsoft.

      However PCs have a solid chance with gaming becoming more and more embraced by the Linux community.

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      it’s worth remembering that this is just an xbox thing, the pc master race weirdness isn’t needed


      edit, just to ask you to be better lemmy community, we’ve totally lost everything that was good about this place and now it’s just become a mirror of modern reddit.

      i know this falls on deaf ears, and just causes more people to press the angry down button immediately, but all I ask is that you try to be better and foster a better community.

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        Criticises somebody by claiming their point is just “pc master race weirdness”, an implication which usually means they’re behaving in a narrow minded, arrogant way

        Then proceeds to make a 2 paragraph edit requesting everyone else who’s downvoted their negative behaviour behave as a better community (doubling down on being patronising, I’ll call it)

        Very hypocritical, absolutely hilarious, and not self aware at all

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          usually means they’re behaving in a narrow minded, arrogant way

          nope not saying that, that’s something you made up. I said pc master race weirdness, where everything not pc is described as being inferior to the goal, which is pc only.

          this kind of thing kills communities, and breeds the hivemindness you see on reddit. I don’t’ care about the downvotes because literally they mean nothing on lemmy. I care that this community has drastic shifted to the hivemind circlejerk you find on reddit in the past few weeks/months. And that this is a good example of it playing out.

          I know you won’t like this and we’ll get right back on pressing the angry no button immediately, that’s a thing. But I’m hoping the people here can sit back and try to understand that the weirdo reddit stuff, i don’t know, do we have to spread it here? it just sucks to see.

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            Interesting to see you view a hivemind when in fact it’s just the actual community disagreeing with your negative attitude and behaviour.

            Did you mean “pc master race weirdness” in the non-existent positive constructive way? I didn’t make anything up, I attributed an implication to your words from the way they’re usually used.

            You’re the problem you are arguing against and are too defensive and narrow minded to simply admit it

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        I am not a pc masterrace guy, Something as simple as online gaming getting put behind a subscription is not okay and I will not pretend it is. Console experiences are highly curated by the corporations controlling them, you don’t own your device. This is mostly true for windows and mac users too. I am not a pc fan I am a console hater, and maybe a little bit of a linux cultist.

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          it’s worth remembering that this is just an xbox thing, the pc master race weirdness isn’t needed

          this is rude to you?

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            When literally no one mentioned pc masteranything, and you accuse people of being peak reddit after comparing a random comment to a shitty community stereotype?

            Yes, sweetie, thats rude.

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    Lol, Microsoft absolutely did not need to spend time making this ‘feature’ and now they get a bunch of bad press for its existence

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      The great porn firewall is coming if the religious get their way. All these companies are getting ahead of it JIC.

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    I guess if he disabled auto upload captures to Xbox live he wouldn’t have been banned. Microsoft wouldn’t dare ban players for captures they only keep locally.

    Still this is a huge fuckup from Microsoft, I hope they reverse this.

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    Banned from what exactly? Just banned from uploading videos? Banned from all xbox live stuff? Banned from using the console full stop?

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      9 months ago

      From the post:

      as of now; I can’t play any game that requires a network connection (Basically making all the money I put into MW3 over the last 6 months even more worthless)

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        Huh, I didn’t see that in the article (maybe my anti-adblock-blocker cut it out), thanks!

        That’s really shit, another warning against the walled garden of console gaming I guess.

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          A warning against any dependence on software you don’t “own”, basically. Being VAC banned, which has also been known to happen to people by mistake, is also a way to cut people off from their purchases which are predominantly online.

          So the majority of PC players who use Steam are just as likely to fall into the same situation as the person in the article on Xbox if they’re not careful, too.

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            And specifically, something to be mindful of for games with server reliance. VAC bans happen on games with valve servers, so any multiplayer game puts you at the mercy of these systems.

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            A bit of a difference here. From what I recall, a VAC Ban only affects games that actually use Valve’s Anti Cheat, hence the name, which is not so popular anymore as far as I know. And they’re supposed to only affect that game individually (but since they’re public, other game/server owners can decide to ban you too).

            Getting an Xbox Live or PSN ban will prevent you from playing any game that relies on the respective service’s network (which they enforce for any game that has online multiplayer in it).

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    I got banned for using the looking for group tool to find help for a boss in elden ring last year. I think the post title was “astel, star friend”.

    Considering how offensive this was, in retrospect it’s amazing that the ban only lasted a few hours (/s)

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    Although I didn’t get a ban I did have a screenshot removed that I took in gtaV off of the rockstar website. I ran into a completely naked man in the hills with his junk hanging out and took a picture in game.