Linux is all good if you only play singleplayer games. My friends started playing the finals yesterday and it doesn’t run on linux because of EAC. Windows can run all my games without any proton switching and all the nvidia features like ray reconstruction and pathtracing with frame generation just works (alan wake 2 looks so good).

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    Why so hostile? Responses like yours are not going to make people come back to Linux anytime soon.

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      I have to agree with @semperverus - I find this post as dumb as going to a windows forum as posting about having moved to linux.

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        That’s not “dumb” tho, that’s how you don’t end up with an echochamber. Windows communities should discuss the shortcomings of windows, but also linux communities should accept and/or help resolve issues with linux. If the point of this community is to just praise linux and say nothing bad about it then what’s even the point of it, it’s just going to give a false impression to anyone thinking of switching over.

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          linux communities should accept and/or help resolve issues with linux

          This isn’t an issue we, or anyone in the Linux community can resolve, and OP doesn’t even ask for help with their issue. They just wanted to inform us that “Linux bad, Windows better”.

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          But this is not a problem with Linux, really. There are many multiplayer and using some king of anti-cheat system games that work perfectly fine. The developer of this one simply didn’t care (or didn’t want for whatever reason) for the game to run on Linux in any form, so it’s not working. Sometimes you get lucky and Wine can run a game like this but this is not the real solution. If developer wants it to run on Mac, they create a Mac build, they want it to run on older Windows, they probably have to prepare separate build for older Windows, they want it to run on consoles, they create builds for the consoles they want it to run. Linux/Proton/Wine build seems to be missing

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            From your perspective it is not a Linux problem. From the perspective of the user who sees all those “Linux is as good for gaming as windows nowadays!” posts and expects his OS to just work, it is a Linux issue that would be resolved by not using Linux.

            Besides, I know nobody gives a shit what we write here in the fediverse but generally speaking you get the change to happen by making enough noise about it. If nobody talks that the dev x doesn’t support the linux build, whether its because of EAC or something else, then nothing will ever change about it so stifling these discussions is not good for anyone.

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        as dumb as going to a windows forum as posting about having moved to linux

        Which is exactly what is happening on Windows-related posts all over Lemmy.

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          Then please downvote them. Fanboyism is stupid regardless of what you’re shilling for.

          I only post if I think it’s directly relevant and constructive. Like noting Steam Deck compat for a game, or if someone asks about Linux on something I happen to be browsing. Then again, Linux isn’t new or fresh to me, it’s just the thing I’ve been using for 15 or so years, so I suppose I’m less excited about it than someone who just found it in the past year or something.

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      In 2023 we still have folks telling linux uses we have to kowtow to non-linux users?

      Someone doesn’t want to run linux, fine. Popping into a Linux community to stick your tongue out and letting folks know you are going back to Windows? That’s no better than a troll. Like those folks who used to make a big post to tell you they were leaving reddit or other forum because someone made them angry. (And I don’t mean the Spez debacle)

      ALL the shit that’s awful about MS and Windows is less awful to OP than running Linux. OK. Well, that’s free will.

      Some things in life don’t need to be announced. No one is shaking their head in sad defeat right now because OP went back to Windows.

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        Popping into a Linux community to stick your tongue out and letting folks know you are going back to Windows? That’s no better than a troll.

        This post is opening up a discussion on game compatibility on Linux. Switching back to Windows is just one point OP made, which you decided to focus on.

        If you decide to view this as a troll, you should also condone the people who invade Windows-related Lemmy posts just to advocate for Linux.

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          If you decide to view this as a troll, you should also condone the people who invade Windows-related Lemmy posts just to advocate for Linux.

          If someone makes a top level post about it, yes I would, for the same reasons.

          If it’s a comment that flows naturally from conversation, I don’t see the problem. (in either case)

          But I think you meant condemn, not condone.

          Switching back to Windows is just one point OP made, which you decided to focus on.

          It’s literally the only point they made. The rest is their justification for that point.

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            But I think you meant condemn, not condone.

            You’re right, I used the wrong word.

            It’s literally the only point they made. The rest is their justification for that point.

            As a community we will achieve nothing if we dismiss these posts as “op said windows is better”. We should be looking into why they feel how they feel.

            Suboptimal game compatibility on Linux is a point that should not be discounted. We know that Linux is mostly there already, but there’s still some amount to go.

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              I don’t feel the need to sell Linux to someone who isn’t interested or who has already decided they are going back to Windows.

              OP didn’t ask for help. OP said “This one game doesn’t work for me, gaming on Linux is a pain in the ass, I’m going back to Windows.” (paraphrasing)

              You are not going to convince me coddling those kinds of posts is beneficial to the community.

              I’d use BSD or even (shudder) MacOS before I used Windows - and while not everyone needs to feel that way, I reject on its face the idea that the primary goal of the Linux community is to endlessly try to convince people who have decided to go back to Windows not to go back to windows.

              I use Linux because I like Linux. I like to interact with people who like Linux. I love to help people who want to learn to like Linux.

              If someone looks at the totality of awfulness that is Windows and MS (and i say that as someone who supports Windows on the sever and the desktop) and decides it’s worth it to go back because they want to play a specific game, that’s fine, but I feel no obligation to beg and cajole them to come back, and I bristle at the implication that I, or the community at large, should.

              I’m also not going to pretend that a post saying they are doing so is in any way a contribution to the linux community. It’s not. At worst it’s a troll and thumb of the nose as they head out the door, and at best it’s unhelpful, and points the finger at Linux when that’s not where the finger belongs.

              Did no one know this game didn’t work until OP posted about it? Did OP contact the DEV to let them know they should do things differently? Has our understanding of the state of gaming on Linux been enhanced in any way? No, probably not, and no.