Ackchually my OS is GNU/Linux/systemd/Gnome/Fedora/Wayland/dnf/flatpak or something, did I forget one? idgaf
Colleague:
“I need to use Linux and my boyfriend suggested I use Ubuntu, is that right?”Me (screaming internally, deciding on whether to rant on bloatware, on Canonical, on reproducibility, on monetization, on many things wrong with the world, but not wanting to come off as an elitist, nor scare her off the idea altogether):
“… that, that should be fine.”I would say use Mint, I think nowadays that’s the better beginner distro. Actually it’s also kind of the pro-user distro. Fiddling around to tweak everything and get it just right is fun in your 20s, but when you need to work, have kids and a wife mint is fine 😛
You must drink alot
I think the only reason people really have for calling it GNU/Linux is to raise awareness about the Free Software movement and its agenda.
The line between “kernel” and “the rest of the OS” is and has always been a fuzzy one. I think RMS would consider GCC to be part of the OS, but I’ve never seen an Android device with a compiler installed. (And I’ve sometimes done *GNU/*Linux installations and never gone on to install GCC, though usually I end up installing GCC at some point.)
I don’t think it’s more “correct” to call it “GNU/Linux” than “Linux” per se. (After all, if we’re going down that rabbithole, should I be calling it “Syslinux/Systemd/etc/etc/etc/GNU/Linux?”)
But, if you’re ideologically aligned with the Free Software movement and want to see more awareness of its mission (and full disclosure, that describes me) then by all means, call it “GNU/Linux” if you like.
All that said, I do think a lot of folks who insist on calling it “GNU/Linux” strongly believe not only that it’s good for awareness about Free Software, but also that it’s more “correct” to call it “GNU/Linux.”
And I’ll also say I can kindof understand why people might feel it’s more correct. From RMS’ perspective, he and some other folks were off building an OS and they had it mostly done and people started using the GNU work with a Linux kernel. But still, that historical argument holds less water every year.
I wonder if they ever regretted opting for a microkernel design.
My OS is Ubuntu
Here the evidence that the fediverse is peaceful. No one lynching this user.
Same.
Can I ask why? You’ve witnessed public opinion about it, and don’t care. Why?
I use KDE btw with Arch as my terminal emulator.
The choice of desktop environment is much more relevant for users than those coreutils. KDE/Linux it is
I just call in not Windows that’s more than specific enough
$ uname Linuxdebian@pc:~$ uname --operating-system GNU/Linux debian@pc:~$
Linux is a name, not a description of the parts. It can mean just the kernel, or the entire family of operating systems, depending on the context.
It’s what we settled on, and there is no point in debating the name unless there is a real problem with it.
It’s actually Linux and Linux’s Monster, but most people get the monster’s name wrong.
Simple solution: call all of it Linux, all the way down the programs and individual files to make everyone angry!
Yo dawg, I heard you like Linux, so I put Linux in your Linux so you can Linux while you Linux.
(On second thought, that sounds a lot like “smurfs”)
What about OS with Linux kernel but no GNU stuff?
Right? Most of the time when I build linux I’m not using GNU because of its burdensome license. Realistically you usually don’t need most of the binaries anyway, and those you do like
echoandlsare trivial to reimplement, at least for their common functionality.Android be like: bionic/linux
That might be difficult.
Linux was made to run GNU software, and is borderline part of GNU. GNU, likewise, is made open, much like the Linux kernel, so it can run on anything.
I don’t know of any software designed for the Linux kernel that doesn’t also expect GNU.
Look, all I’m saying is that the two are very strongly bonded, like hydrogen and oxygen in a molecule of water. It would take a lot of energy to separate them. Adding to them is pretty trivial, there’s a lot of things that are water soluble by default, but without specific conditions and a lot of energy, they won’t seperate easily.
Honestly, I think the only OS I know of that’s the closest to being Linux but not GNU, is Android.
Alpine Linux exists. But yeah, most of these projects pretty much do the same thing as their GNU counterparts, just outside the license.
Wayland can’t run on BSD as I’ve heard so GNU can’t run on anything, i may be wrong though, because my source is posts on internet, but as I’ve heard BSD users want x-server support to continue
Alpine has no GNU.
“IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS ITS STILL GNU!”
You can compile the whole kernel with clang now I think.
You wouldn’t call Windows GNU/WindowsNT if it was compiled with gcc, would you?
it can has if you
apk add coreutils
I don’t care what you call it. Call it Steve if you want. GNU/Linux is awkward to say and will never catch on though.
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux
I’d like to interject for a moment, what you are referring to as Mexico is in fact the United States of Mexico. A Federation Republic comprised of 31 free and sovereign States each with its own constitution, judiciary, and democratically election Congressional entity. The 31 individual and unique States form a Federation consisting of a bilateral Congress consisting of a Republic Senate and a Chamber of Deputies entrusted with creation of law, imposing taxes, ratifying treaties and international diplomacy. The Federal entity is further comprised of an Executive wing charged with enforcing the laws, emergency dictation and commanding the military. The third and final wing is a Judicial entity consisting of regional courts and a High Court of 11 jurist charged with interpreting any discrepancies that may between the Sovreign States or within the Law itself
So you can say Yucatan is Mexico, the same way Ubuntu is Linux. Or the same way people say Windows, instead of Microsoft Windows NT.
OP is technically correct, but that’s not how people express themselves in real life, there’s an unspoken understanding in the community that when someone says Linux (when talking in a general sense), there’s no way they are referring to the kernel only.
Thank you for your service.
Let’s make it lignux, but replace gnu with the Spanish word ñu and now it’s liñux
Dammit I cannot unsee it now.
I will keep saying Liñux now.
