• Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    Man I wonder how conservatives will justify still driving fossil fuel cars now, because we all know they will. They keep using “Dangerous and terrible lithium mining” as their first and foremost excuse, if we get cheaper and easier to make batteries I wonder what the next scapegoat will be.

    I know, lithium mining is terrible, but we all know that they don’t actually care about it being terrible. They’re just regurgitating what Fox has told them

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      I mean, the Australian mines are terrible for the environment, not like the nice and clean coal mines next door; and i mean, you can only recycle like 97% of the lithium with modern processes, not like gas where you can use it over and over again./s

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        Obviously this newer technology is only marginally better for the environment, so it’d be stupid to even try it. Who cares if it’s only partially better? So I’m completely justified in using my outdated fossil fuel vehicles that we know are 100% terrible for the environment.

        /s

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      They will say fossil fuel cars are closely tied to American history and culture and driving electric cars is unamerican. They don’t need arguments, only emotions.

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        The most american thing to me is a cowboy dude riding his horse in nature than go to the saloon and get beaten by a drunken man

        Or die of dyssentery in the wild moving an ox-powered wagon with half your belongings probably already stolen by someone

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      I’ve already had these conversations online…

      1. At the moment, they’ve already shifted to claiming EV cars are worse for the environment…
      2. Yanking on about Towing capacity. They still haven’t worked out that literally so few cars on the road (at least here in Australia), even have a towbar. Even less use it (even during long holidays)…
      3. Range. These guys haven’t worked out yet, that they aren’t going to be driving 16 hrs a day… And, for those applications, if unavoidable, worst case scenario is then Fuel cells.
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        Agree with all of these. Like they need a vehicle that can tow a semi every day for 800 miles. I’ve had the same talk and for many of them they are at LEAST a 2 car household. I keep saying okay if you need a vehicle that can do all of that… What about the other vehicle. Silence every time. Because they can’t accept that there may actually be a valid use case.

        You want a giant truck for towing? Fine. But 90% of them are lying to themselves. Those people need commuter cars, and that’s where EVs are perfect

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        Ironically, towing capacity is something that EVs have the potential to be better than ICE. They have the torque, and you don’t need a complicated transmission in the drive train being a limiting factor.

        You can also put extra battery in whatever you’re towing. It’s extra weight, but if we’re talking highway travel, the weight doesn’t matter much. Air resistance matters more, but you’ve already paid that price by having a trailer at all. High power connection does need to be worked out, though.