I have 15 years of experience and do free infinite troubleshooting on matrix, feel free to add me. I recommend you go with aurora, because it is immutable, kde based, and well documented.

immutable means the base system is read only and updates are applied ontop of it, meaning you can easily roll back an update that went bad, and the apps are separate from the core operating system and thus can never break them (unless you try really hard).

kde is a desktop environment, it is most similar to windows and the rate of development dwarfs almost everything else, please whatever you do for your first system use kde.

aurora is a slightly modified fedora and fedora is one of the most commonly used options, the reason not to use base fedora is that aurora includes some QoL features, for example because of issues with patents twitch doesn’t work on fedora but does on aurora.

You probably could with a phone

It’s even a work pc, there’s a thread on the microsoft forums detailing how common the problem is.

I have had to use windows for like the last two weeks and the taskbar crashes and freezes constantly so I put a bat file on my desktop that kills and reopens explorer.exe also if my bluetooth headphones disconnect while my mic is muted it refuses to unmute… I have to reboot. This is what people say is a “it just works” experience.

It’s liquid ass

Thank you I really appreciate your kind words.

Fedora is not preferred because there are legal issues surrounding patents, this makes it so that if you want to, for example, watch a twitch stream… it just won’t work.

bazzite and aurora have fixes for this built in, which is why I recommend them over raw fedora.

don’t do kubuntu, it is a terrible place to start for beginners. I don’t think we should be recommending ubuntu at all, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place.

The mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

theres also the fact that ubuntu ships very out of date software… among other things regarding privacy concerns, snaps being terrible, just don’t.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

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No, you still can, it’ll just be much easier to recover from.

This is a nonsense talking point, what exactly can’t you do with root access on bazzite that you can do on a non-immutable?

the answer: nothing

Hilarious chaos is widely regarded as a nazi server, so it has a lot of defeds, they post a lot of antitrans content and it’s not against the rules, you may want to try another instance.

If you don’t like the gaming stuff try aurora, feel free to message me on matrix.

Relevant post I made:

A lot of people are going to recommend you mint, I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

The mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lxqt is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

I specialize in giving new users linux and documentation has not been an issue at all with bazzite, I just let them know to use rpm-ostree as little as possible ( and that it replaces the normal fedora package manager ) and only when necessary and search for atomic fedora for guides.

so far I have run into zero documentation issues that weren’t just general linux ones. I think your claim might have been true a while ago but no longer is.

Tbh I copy and pasted a lot from a previous post I made about mint

https://lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz/comment/18486270

in short yeah I think it’s a pretty bad place in the modern era, but was a great one a few years ago, recommendations are slow to change with the times.

Tbh I don’t agree at all that kubuntu is easier for beginners, that may have been the case 5 or so years ago, but bazzite and aurora are the best now, also there’s literally no reason to use fedora over bazzite or aurora since they’re literally the same thing except with some added packages and important fixes (especially the ffmpeg fix that makes twitch work)

I honestly think ubuntu based distros are an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I think only immutable kde distros should be recommended to beginners as a result, the mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

TBH do you actually think that there’s some chance that nobody is testing these releases and this is happening to a massive number of people?

I’ve installed linux countless times on a SHITLOAD of computers and never faced any of these problems, realistically, you’re very unlucky, and these sorts of things happen with windows all the time too.

I’m not saying your issues don’t matter, but unless you have statistics that back you up, you can’t say “it just works” to either OS.

I’ve had more of an “It just works” experience with linux literally hundreds of times.

I just need steam\proton\wine to support native wayland and then I’ll remove xwayland from my system, can’t wait

i’m on hyprland though