Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton’s trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.
Yup, no sorry. Only bots left in reddit, have fun!
yet another reason to use mastodon, because they can’t control it yet.
Can you even use Reddit if you’re running Proton’s VPN? I know Reddit has been actively blocking other VPNs (eg Mullvad) for some time.
Yes they have a stealth feature that is helpful for detecting a VPN
I wish VPS providers didn’t commonly block email ports. Self hosting seems like the only way to stay in control
It’s understandable though, they just don’t want to deal with email spammers.
Makes me glad that I procrastinated on switching over, I guess I’ll just ride out my current NordVPN subscription and switch over to Mullvad?
Almost makes me afraid to ask the community, what exactly is wrong with Nord? 😅
Unless you never want to torrent, I would say to not use mullvad, you can’t forward a port with them (same with NordVPN). There are plenty of VPNs that don’t log and allow port forwarding. I use AirVPN.
I’ve not encountered any issues filling up my NAS with torrented Linux ISOs via NordVPN?
My priority for a VPN has just been no logging and the ability to ‘travel’ internationally… so if there the case, no need to rush out and switch then?
https://lemm.ee/post/56692320/18526252
A connection has to be established. That is only possible if one side has an open port.
So you can basically not connect to other people with closed ports, which reduces your available pool of people to connect to.
As long as there are enough people with open ports for you, you and the torrent ecosystem will be fine. But when nobody or very few people have open ports, torrenting simply doesn’t work.
Yeah, speeds are far greater with port forwarding. But, if you’re not in a hurry, I suppose it’s nbd
Looks like I’m leaving Proton. Fucking hell, not even a year ago I migrated from Gmail
Me too. Same predicament. I was a paid user of Proton.
Just got moved over to paid Tuta, and it seemed to go smoothly.
Learn your lesson and switch to a custom domain :) that way you will never have to change all your services’ email addresses anymore, when you want to switch mail provider.
SAME! I only just finished getting all my servers and custom domain set up, and I already have to look for a new provider.
If someone has any recommendations for a good hosted email, VPN and online storage provider let us know. It seems there’s not many good options left.
It’s as if with each passing day, Proton wakes up and chooses to wear a slightly different red flag for a cape than the one they wore yesterday. I’m obviously being hyperbolic here, but I’m also a bit upset with myself for having decided to get an annual subscription with them last November.
I’ve heard good things about Mullvad for VPN and Tuta for mail. I’ve got my own domain that I can start using with whatever mail host I land on.
I’m in the U.S. What other mail providers are people using, and what other VPN providers should I be considering?
If you ever want to torrent, some service that allows port forwarding, like AirVPN or PureVPN. A popular alternative of mullvad does not allow this.
I just wanted to follow back up on this helpful comment here and the ones along with it from other posters. After testing and review, combined with what folks explained below, I can say for sure I’m looking for a service with port forwarding. And now I understand how someone could unknowingly offload the port forwarding responsibility to other parties thereby making torrents less accessible than may have been intended while mistakenly being under the impression they were providing equitable accessibility just because “it looks like it’s working”.
I feel like this should have been more obvious way sooner, but my skull is remarkably thick it seems. Thanks for helping me wrinkle my brain a little more today.
You keep posting this and I haven’t been using port forwarding at all but torrents keep coming through. What am I missing here? Serious question, because I do not know what I’m either doing wrong or missing out on with port forwarding and I have not been experiencing what I would call a degraded experience as far as I can tell, but there’s a whole world of things that I’m entirely ignorant to.
A connection has to be established. That is only possible if one side has an open port.
So you can basically not connect to other people with closed ports, which reduces your available pool of people to connect to.
As long as there are enough people with open ports for you, you and the torrent ecosystem will be fine. But when nobody or very few people have open ports, torrenting simply doesn’t work.
Thanks, this is a little difficult to parse while I’m looking at my seeds uploading at ratios well over 1.00 but just the same I’m running a new VPN tunnel with port forwarding enabled to see what difference it makes.
Plex works for the people I share with outside my network. No port forwarding. I just don’t get what I am not getting, and every explainer I get is basically what you posted (no offense) and it doesn’t match what my experience is showing me.
I think port forwarding is more important for seeding when it comes to torrents. Someone has to be able to initiate the connection.
Well that is something I’ll need to look into. My seed ratios seem to be keeping up too though, so I’m still not sure if port forwarding is a solution in search of a problem on my end. I guess I have more learning to do. Thank you for giving me a direction to start investigating.
If you’re not port-forwarding, only peers that are port-forwarding can download from you. And you can only download from peers that are port-forwarding. There can be times where a torrent only has a few seeders, but they are not port-forwarding, and if you’re not either, you won’t be able to download the torrent.
Ah ok thank you, I think the fact that the other party could be providing this capability was the component that I wasn’t conceptualizing before. Thank you for this post, I don’t know why this was so hard to grasp for me but this landed.
I’ve used Mullvad VPN for almost a year and it’s amazing. I only switched to Proton because I use all their services.
Ugh, I use proton for VPN and email. Any suggestions for decent VPN at this point?
AirVPN is great, allows port forwarding, 5 devices, and they run very good black Friday specials every year if you decide to buy it after trialling.
I’ve used Mullvad for a couple of years now and they’re great.
Unless you never want to torrent, I would not choose mullvad. Torrenting requires port forwarding if you properly want to give back to the community, which mullvad doesn’t support.
Thank you!
I don’t have any complaints with Nord but other people seem to.
Nord has no port forwarding. No deal
I had it for over a year and then, one day, every time I stepped outside my home, it would go into “connecting…” and never come back.
I’d have to go into settings and completely deleted it, then re-add. I gave up, and went to proton. Literally zero issues until the ceo started praising nazis
Does anyone know of a good alternative to simple login? They’re owned my proton too and I have about 150+ aliases to move
“limited resources” wtf? just copy and paste the content. I guess they didn’t like the backslash on Mastodon because of the CEO and Trump bootlicker Andy Yen
This is even more ridiculous given they have a bluesky account and all they need to do is follow the bridge and their content will be ported to mastodon. Literally 5 seconds.
Yeah not even copy paste, this has been easily automatable for years.
Oh yeah that’s prob it. On Reddit they can delete any negative comments
It’s the age of stinginess
On Mastodon, Proton is held to a higher standard. That’s why they left for the dumb masses instead.
This is a genuine question : how Proton stopping using Mastodon for communication make them bad ?
My understanding is that their users were calling them to account pretty heavily on Mastodon. This is a way for them to curtail that (and save face) without answering to the users there over the CEO’s pro-Republican/pro-Trump statements. They can’t control the narrative on Mastodon so they’re running away.
This is despite the fact that a lot of privacy focused potential customers aren’t using Twitter or Bluesky or Threads. In fact, the userbase on Mastodon that followed their account was larger than that of both Bluesky and Threads.
They’re supporting commercialized, walled-garden social media platforms instead of ones that are publicly accessible
Because it sends a message that they do not support community-driven projects and will instead support large, corporate social media.
It would not have meant anything if they were never on Mastodon in the first place.
If you’re looking to shake up your email provider in the wake of this, I highly recommend getting a custom domain name, whatever provider you choose. Cloudflare sells domains at cost. Get a not-embarrasing
.comof your own, and then you can move email providers in future without losing continuity. Proton allows exporting.emlfiles, which you can then import into your next provider. Or just keep in cold storage and declare email bankruptcy. Once you have a custom domain, you can use unique emails for all your services by setting up a catchall address. This will at least impede credential stuffing attacks, and let you know who sold/leaked your address if you do get spam.I personally left Proton a month or so ago after the last bit of drama, in part out of principle, but also because their offering is just really expensive for my use case: I just want email, on a budget, with reasonable privacy. Plus I was tired of not having IMAP support and being locked into their clients. Moved to a Zoho business account (for now) and have been happy for the $12/yr. I already had a domain name, but they typically run <$20/year too.
Get an embarrassing domain, then give that one out to all the shitty stores that ask you for an email. Bonus points if it will make people extremely uncomfortable.
Didn’t the CEO of Proton lick the Trump boot recently?
They did, yes.
I’m assuming the next video to be released will be of the Proton CEO and Trump on on some fetish.
“oh yeah, encrypt me daddy”
Andy is a cuck.
Fucking disgusting
People on here like complain and will tell that he has his balls in his mouth when in reality all he did was show some hope after the Republicans appointed someone who has a track record of being anti-bigtech. I still think the way the situation was handled terribly, but to say that he is MAGA would be a hell of a stretch in my opinion
So it came as a surprise last month when Proton CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party in a post on X, declaring that “10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.” When the tweet went viral, Proton’s official Reddit account posted a now-deleted comment stating that “Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.”
show some hope huh
Yeah so uh youre proving my point, he’s happy that the nominated person is more favorable to small businesses than the one previously nominated by the Democrats. Wether it’s true or false I don’t know, but this post (and his other posts form before and after the event) to me don’t suggest MAGA
Then I just don’t know what to tell ya. It’s right there.
I wonder how that’s working out for him.
I’ve been giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I’m kinda done with them. Anyone have any suggestions for a mail provider? I’m not yet willing to self-host that.
If all you need is mail, Tuta.
I’ve been happy with mailbox.org. I left proton after the boot licking. I had been a paying customer for years.
I just signed up for mailbox.org, let’s see how this goes
Posteo
Posteo unfortunately doesn’t support custom domains.
