Honestly there’s no reason to use Audacity anymore when this exists. We can argue all the livelong day about licenses and telemetry and “should we allow this” but there’s really no need when there’s a community-run alternative that lacks the motivation to implement such functions.
I feel like we should be promoting the fork that was created during the drama some years ago, rather than audacity. They really have lost faith in the community and every time they are mentioned, basically there is no love.
I just can’t remember the name of the fork.
I also couldn’t remember. It’s probably Tenacity.
Tenacity looks great, and I didn’t even know about it! Thanks for the reminder, we should definitely be supporting the fork thats actually proper FOSS.
What did Audacity do?
I didn’t see any issues with the dev-build-only telemetry, and I think the license issues were honest mistakes from a new company (I mean, you’d get sued for violating the license!). Especially since they have the beats and measures feature, I’m giving them another chance until they do more shady stuff.
For those, like me who entered this chat wondering why the hostility? Here is a great write up of what happened in 2021.
https://hackaday.com/2021/07/13/muse-group-continues-tone-deaf-handling-of-audacity/
Still having a hard time trusting Muse Group
This version still got the data scraper in it?
What happened with all the privacy invading stuff which Audacity went through a couple years ago? I never heard whether it got reverted or not.
Audacity is now basically part of the Muse family, which is a for profit venture, with it’s own - wait for it 🥁🥁🥁🥁 store front launcher
Nothing makes me hate music software (or games) more than yee old SaaS/DRM pile-on, especially when you add another goddamn launcher. I’m trying to lay low latency buffers here, not facilitate another UI stack and background processes. I nuke the printer spool, and you think I want more? I will download the cracked version, even if I own the damned software, to get rid of all that.
Jokes aside, considering the whole funding issue in the open source world, MuseHub (the “plugin boutique”) takes a fairly common route in the audio software world, since pretty much every single one of these DAW, plugin or sample pack outfits have a storefront - or use one, if not several.
If say the Audacity we know is still free, but the add-ons cost money, that’s fine. It’s very “freemium”, but as long as they don’t remove VST3 or CLAP support, it’s fairly harmless.
In regards to tracking, is it opt-out, opt-in, identifiable or anonymized telemetry? It’s contentious, to say the least, but if it’s a concern, you could always block domains - even though the average user would probably not concern themselves, and at that point I wonder if it’s better than other creepy freemium models that are even more predatory.
Though it could be the type of telemetry used in most modern DRMs to confirm ownership by using plenty of CPU cycles and network communication to validate identity.
Because DRMs is the worst technology segment invented in all of modern history, and it needs to die in a fire - I swear * TO GOD* you do not need to hit several friggin domain many times a day, once is enough - in fact, once is too much! You can take your iLok and shove it. I paid for this software, and if I put a Jolly Roger in it, it’s because your DRM drains my soul.
your launcher is bad and you should feel bad
I swear, this heckles my kekles sooo much.
Optional crash reporting was merged. Most of the backlash in the PR is about the significant dependencies (Google’s BreakPad) which were pulled in with it.
However, by default Audacity isn’t built with it, you need to specify a CMake with the URL to send data to. No distros that I know of enable reporting.
Ahhh I see. At least from Wikipedia, it looks like the auto-opt-in telemetry was dropped, which is good.
Wierd that it’s owned by Muse group now, but glad it’s alive and well.
The new UI and effects look stunning, but I’m concerned about the new corporate direction the project is taking
The “MuseHub 2.0” part worries me. Muse Hub is an incredibly useless and bloated launcher I didn’t ask for sneakily bundled with MuseScore that constantly attempts to run in the background as if it was malware.
